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David Waddell died 1923
« on: Sunday 24 August 14 20:27 BST (UK) »
David Waddell, accountant at HM Embassy in Tokyo, was killed in an earthquake in Japan on 1 September 1923.

Is there anyone with access to Irish newspapers who could please check for me whether any Irish paper carried a death announcement or obituary for this David Waddell?
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Re: David Waddell died 1923
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 August 14 11:55 BST (UK) »
Nothing on Irish News Archive but they don't have the Irish Times which might be the best option.

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Re: David Waddell died 1923
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 August 14 12:08 BST (UK) »
Are you sure he was posted in Tokyo? perhaps instead died there or death registrered through Tokyo Embassy?

A David Waddell was shipping clerk in Nagasaki 1916-1920 and Yokohama 1921-1923 (also a J.S. Waddell at various postings before and after those dates)
http://www.ampltd.co.uk/digital_guides/fo_japan_series1_prt1to2/british_embassy_consular_staff.aspx

Account seems to point to death in Yokohama earthquake- see here
Possibly connected?
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/25517276?uid=3738032&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21104086165491
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Re: David Waddell died 1923
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 August 14 12:21 BST (UK) »
Report here refers to the death of David Waddell of the British Commercial Councellors' (sic) Office:

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Re: David Waddell died 1923
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 August 14 12:36 BST (UK) »
If we knew which part of Ireland he came from, it would help the search.

Is this him on the Beersbridge Road Belfast in the 1911 Census?

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Re: David Waddell died 1923
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 August 14 12:44 BST (UK) »
A search of marriage registrations on https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/ shows a David Waddell marrying a lady with the surname Archibald on 6 August 1923.  Payment required to view full record.

If this is the same man then he was married for only three weeks before his death... but then this might be completely the wrong man.

EDIT:  On reflection, 3 weeks to get to Japan in 1923, is a bit unlikely.

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Re: David Waddell died 1923
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 August 14 12:46 BST (UK) »
How about this one instead-

5 Aug.1921 "Kniva" departed London, England for Yokohama, Japan: David Broomby Waddell, age 42, civil servant; wife Mrs. Minnie Waddell, 41; Lily Waddell, 13; James Waddell, 2?. Cottage, West Bay, Dunoon.

(arrived in London, England 15 Mar.1921 on "Delta" from Yokohama, Japan)
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Re: David Waddell died 1923
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 August 14 12:54 BST (UK) »
Above family (minus David & with a few more children)-
28 May 1924 "Nellore" arrived London, Engand from Kobe Japan: Minnie S. Waddell, Lily Waddell 16, James Waddell 9, Winifred Waddell 5, Charles Waddell 2 1/2. Last reidence- China. U.K. address= 475 Cathredal St. Glasgow.

If this is the correct David Waddell then everything so far points to a Scottish rather than Irish connection.
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Re: David Waddell died 1923
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 August 14 13:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all who have replied. Amazing amount of information.

It is pure speculation on my part to link David Waddell with Ireland, and specifically with Helen Waddell; that's actually what I would like to find out. I was hoping for a death notice or obituary that would describe him as a son of Rev Hugh Waddell, but I didn't want to ask it as a leading question.

I know that Helen Waddell was one of at least ten children born in Japan to the Rev Hugh Waddell, who was a missionary in Tokyo for many years. I have evidence of one sort or another for all ten births in Japan, either from consular birth indexes or the Irish census, and I know roughly what became of all of them.

However there was allegedly an eleventh child named David. I have no independent evidence for his birth or existence, but when my attention was drawn to the 1923 death (which I only know was in Japan, not exactly where in Japan) it immediately occurred to me to speculate.

I'll follow up that shipping entry, and take a closer look at the details of Embassy and Consular staff.
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