James Mcardle - father? Newcastle upon Tyne.

[kooky]

Have James Mcardle b.1853/4 with mother Sarah, visiting Fletcher family in Liverpool in 1861 census.
Have James and mother Sarah in Wallsend with Mary -16, and Hannah -6 in 1871 census.
Have James,wife Elizabeth and son Thomas in 1881 census.
I have no idea who James' father was
Any ideas?
Kooky

[Tim Brayshaw]

When was the mother born, and where?

[Found it on the census search, nevermind - read below]

[Tim Brayshaw]

It looks like the child is illegitimate doesn't it?

[kooky]

Thanks Tim!
I had a thought and used FREEBMD to find a wife Sarah to any Mcardle. Came up with Peter Mcardle = Sarah Wilson 1852 Gateshead. Will investigate further
Kooky

[Tim Brayshaw]

On the 1861 census she is down as 'unmarried', well, ditto'd from the children unmarried above her.

[rolnora]

The census record for 1881 on Ancestry has a comment attached saying that James married
Elizabeth Marshall in 1877.
Family Search Records have this marriage and it gives his father's name as Peter Mcardle.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKY-YHF

[Tim Brayshaw]

The census record for 1881 on Ancestry has a comment attached saying that James married
Elizabeth Marshall in 1877.
Family Search Records have this marriage and it gives his father's name as Peter Mcardle.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNKY-YHF

Nicely found. Guess the unmarried on the census wasn't correct then and the Gateshead marriage to Peter we found was right on FreeBMD.

[WolfieSmith]

Another marriage on Familysearch.

Sarah McArdle, age 40, and Alexander McAlister, age 39. 9 Sep 1872, Newcastle All Saints. Brides father - James Wilson. Grooms father - Alexander McAlister

Alexander is on the previous census page to Sarah in 1871. In 1881 they are still in Wallsend, by 1891 Sarah is a widow.

Alan.

[rolnora]

It seems that 16 year old Mary married shortly after the 1871 census was taken.
Free bmd has it as June qtr

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N656-927