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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 01 March 15 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Here they are in 1871


Name: Kenneth Maclennan
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary Maclennan
Gender: Male
Where born: Harris, inverness shire
Registration Number: 113
Registration district: North Uist
Civil Parish: North Uist
County: Invernessshire
Address: Brenish House
Occupation: Shepherd
ED: 16
Household schedule number: 41
LINE: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_21

Household Members:
Name                    Age
Kenneth Maclennan 47
Mary Maclennan 42
Donald John Maclennan 9
Christina Maclennan 7
Murdoch Maclennan 5
Catherine Maclennan 3
Angus Mackenzie 20

Annie
 
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 01 March 15 21:56 GMT (UK) »
That 1871 census (online) was taken in Brenish, North Locheport (from transcriptions I have)

Anne Marie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 01 March 15 22:18 GMT (UK) »
I do have the information on them on Barra but wanted to go further back. I really wanted to know who took the croft over after Kenneth left for Barra (did it stay in the family?) also if there is a date they took it over?

In order to go back further a name for his wife would be helpful  ???

Do you have details of the marriage from the kids birth certs.?

The birth certs. will provide date & place of marriage  ;)

Do you have the marriage cert. as both parents names will be on it  ???


Anne Marie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 01 March 15 22:46 GMT (UK) »
I think this is the marriage details  ;D

Name: Kenneth Maclennan
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 14 Feb 1861
Marriage Place: North Uist, Inverness, Scotland
Spouse: Mary Johnson

FHL Film Number: 6035516

A copy from SP will cost less than £1.50 & give you both parents for each  ;D

Anne Marie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 01 March 15 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,
I've had another look at vol 4 but there are definitely no Maclennans. Mr Lawson tends to start with the earliest rental lists, sometimes back to 1799, and continues up to the the end of the 19th century or even later. (My mother, for example, who was born in North Uist in 1913, and is mentioned as moving to Greenock on her marriage).
One thing to point out is that the crofting books only deal with crofts, not with larger houses.
I'll have a look through the other volumes when I get a chance, but there are no indexes, so there's no guarantee I'll find them, as it's easy to skip over something.
I have, however found a reference to MacLennans in Bill Lawson's book, North Uist in History and Legend. It says a Donald Maclennan (Domhnall a Choibair) was a shepherd at Greinetobht and had come originally from Harris.
"The Maclennans had come from Tarasaigh in Harris, and when forced to leave there, had scattered, one to Fionnsbhagh in Harris, others to Airidh a Bhruaich in Lewis, and Donald to Greienetobht. Donald had died in 1889, but his son Donald took over as shepherd."
I'll have a look at the volume that includes Greinetobht tomorrow for you.
Christine
McKillops of Greenock, Ireland and Mull
Macdonalds of North Uist
Donald Fraser, involved in the '45
Allan Macdonald "out" in the '45
McDerments of Ireland and Ayrshire

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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 March 15 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Christine that sounds good but I have a feeling this may be another branch of the family?

I think Kenneth (b c 1837) who married Mary Johnson, his father was Murdoch & mother Christina?

Anne Marie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #15 on: Monday 02 March 15 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Right, I've gone through vol 2 for you now, and the only Maclennans are the shepherds mentioned in Bill Lawson's book. I've taken a photo of the page for you and was going to attach it here but it seems to be too big to send. I'll try and reduce the size and post it later.
Will check through vols 1 and 3 later.
Christine
McKillops of Greenock, Ireland and Mull
Macdonalds of North Uist
Donald Fraser, involved in the '45
Allan Macdonald "out" in the '45
McDerments of Ireland and Ayrshire

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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #16 on: Monday 02 March 15 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Brenish, North Locheport

Christine,

Is it possible to check what Brenish House in North Locheport was please?

It looks as though the workers lived on the owners land but I dont know for sure as Im only reading between the lines?

Regards,

Anne Marie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MacLennan - Trumaisgearraidh North Uist
« Reply #17 on: Monday 02 March 15 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I've pm'd you the photos of the relevant pages.
As I said earlier, the crofting history books only deal with crofts, not with large houses. There's no mention (at least not in the index) of Brenish House in the History and Legend book and Locheport isn't covered in the crofting books. He hasn't finished the whole island yet. I've been waiting years for another volume.

The system was that a tacksman would live in a larger house and collect the rents from the crofters on the land that came under that house's jurisdiction. Most crofters lived off their own patch of land but there wasn't much left over once they paid the rent. They only made extra by working extra for the tacksman or lord/owner of the land, for example by gathering kelp for him etc.,


McKillops of Greenock, Ireland and Mull
Macdonalds of North Uist
Donald Fraser, involved in the '45
Allan Macdonald "out" in the '45
McDerments of Ireland and Ayrshire