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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 14 March 15 12:48 GMT (UK) »

'Tony, an electrician was married and lived in Denny.

He died young maybe as a result of an work accident.


Just a thought, could memory of his name have faded over the years. Could it be Tommy (after his father) rather than Tony?  Not a possibility if there was a Thomas already in the family that the family are aware of course!

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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 14 March 15 13:42 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for the Above person born around Achencrow and sourrounds
to Thomas BELL and Alice Ann YULE one of about 10 children born between
1912 and 1931.   

What relationship would "Tony" Bell be to yourself?

Annie
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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 March 15 13:59 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the marriage record Thomas Bell and Alice Ann Yule? Maybe there could be some clues on there. Where were they living when they married? Where were their parents from?
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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 March 15 14:09 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for the Above person born around Achencrow and sourrounds
to Thomas BELL and Alice Ann YULE one of about 10 children born between
1912 and 1931.
Not sure what exactly you want to know but if it's his genealogy, you really need to make sure the bottom rungs on your ladder are "concrete" (with actual certs.) before you ascend or it may cost you an awful lot more trying to "leapfrog"  ???

Do you have any idea of when he died to narrow things down as Bell is a very common name?

Annie

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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 14 March 15 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again for suggestions.  Yes it is possible that Anthony was not his first name.  Family memories are faint. All of his siblings are deceased.
The children were born in two year intervals starting with
William                     1912 Cocklaw Ayton U/r Coldlands Coldingham
Nessie (Agnes Anderson)1914 Auchencrow,Colldingham
Janet Kinghorn         1916 Foulden Bastle,Foulden, Berwick
John Yule                 1918 Foulden Bastle,Foulden, Berwick
Isa (Isabella)            1922 Auchencrow, Reston
Alexander                1924 Bellshiel, Edrom, Berwick
James                     1926 Bellshiel, Edrom, Berwick
Robert                     1928 Bellshiel, Edrom, Berwick
Nellie Yule                1931 Cosshall, Eccles, Berwick
So Anthony could have been a twin (which I missed going thru the records in Edinburgh) or born between 1918 and 1922. Again I didn't find him.  But family insist he did exsist and may have had a son
Thomas BELL.  I did not find an appropriate Thomas either.
A real live mystery.


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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 14 March 15 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Angus, one to be checked on site perhaps. Still wondering whether Tony was Tommy  :-\ A Thomas birth in Foulden in 1920. Would fit neatly in the list you have added. Also see there in no Thomas in the list of names, which is good at this point!

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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #15 on: Monday 16 March 15 14:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again for suggestions.  Yes it is possible that Anthony was not his first name.  Family memories are faint. All of his siblings are deceased.
The children were born in two year intervals starting with
William                     1912 Cocklaw Ayton U/r Coldlands Coldingham
Nessie (Agnes Anderson)1914 Auchencrow,Colldingham
Janet Kinghorn         1916 Foulden Bastle,Foulden, Berwick
John Yule                 1918 Foulden Bastle,Foulden, Berwick
Isa (Isabella)            1922 Auchencrow, Reston
Alexander                1924 Bellshiel, Edrom, Berwick
James                     1926 Bellshiel, Edrom, Berwick
Robert                     1928 Bellshiel, Edrom, Berwick
Nellie Yule                1931 Cosshall, Eccles, Berwick
So Anthony could have been a twin (which I missed going thru the records in Edinburgh) or born between 1918 and 1922. Again I didn't find him.  But family insist he did exsist and may have had a son
Thomas BELL.  I did not find an appropriate Thomas either.
A real live mystery.

Not a mystery Angus, You are looking for THOMAS Bell b abt 1920, son of Thomas Bell and Alice Yule.  Tommy died aged 27 on the 15/11/1947. He was an overhead linesman and died from shock following an  electrocution, burns to hands and scalp.

I was speaking to his nephew (son of his brother John) a couple of days ago and he told me there was no Tony Bell but there was a Tommy who died from accidental electrocution . He was working on the power lines near Dullatur, Dumbartonshire, he was told the power was switched off but it hadn't been...a tragic accident.

I had done a 'wee' tree for the daughter of above John Bell a few years ago and thought I recognised the names.  Still lots of this family of Bells living in my town.  I do have a copy of the death cert for his death, if you want a copy pm me your email address and I'll send it off to you.

This is his death notice in the Berwickshire News 25/11/1947

BELL at Dullatur, Nov 15th, the result of an accident. Thomas Bell, aged 27 beloved husband of Annie Furlong, 51 Park Street, High Bonnybridge, and dearly loved 3rd son of Mr & Mrs Thomas Bell, 1 Westfield Street, Earlston.

Terry
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Robert Johnstone Borthwick 1898 - KIA 24/3/1918 aged 21 North Staffordshire Regiment

George Lowden Borthwick 1899 - KIA 24/3/1918 aged 19 Royal Scots Fusiliers

gr Uncle Walter Combe b1893 - KIA 12/7/1915 aged 22  Kings Own Scottish Borderers

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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 March 15 19:56 GMT (UK) »
That is great background and details, Terry  :) Got me at least off my wonderings on the Tony v. Tommy issue  ;)

Monica

PS: This is the ref I saw on Saturday on SP for Thomas' birth: 1920 Thomas BELL at FOULDEN/BERWICK - Ref. 741/00 0007
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Re: Please help with Anthony BELL b maybe 1916 to 1922 in Berwickshire
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 March 15 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica, 

That will be him I should think. I had a Tommy but no Tony so it confused me too.
That's why I asked his nephew just to be sure.

I was also told by his nephew that he went through all of ww11 safely only to be killed accidently at work.  Another aside was that he John Bells (his brother)
best man at his wedding. 

Angus I remember Terry and Ainslie.

Terry
g grandfather Thomas Borthwick 11/11/1882 - KIA 25/9/1915 aged 33 Kings Own Scottish Borderers

Brothers & cousins to Thomas (Both KIA same day)
Robert Johnstone Borthwick 1898 - KIA 24/3/1918 aged 21 North Staffordshire Regiment

George Lowden Borthwick 1899 - KIA 24/3/1918 aged 19 Royal Scots Fusiliers

gr Uncle Walter Combe b1893 - KIA 12/7/1915 aged 22  Kings Own Scottish Borderers

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