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Offline Jolene1987

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Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« on: Thursday 18 September 14 12:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

I know this might be a long shot but I am looking to trace or find out more about the Kelso family.  I know it's not a hugely popular name in Belfast so hoping someone might know something.

Lucy Black (aka Louie) married John Kelso on 29 December 1914.  Lucy's parents were James and Lucinda and the family were from Cambrai Street, Belfast.

John Kelso was from Roseleigh Street and at time of marriage was a loom moulder. 

I can't find any children but there is a family story that she may have adopted her niece's (Irene) children but I can't seem to track down Irene either although I know one of her kids was Ernie Johnston. 

Any help would be great

Thank you
Black, Dunlop, Pritchard, Todd, Kelso, Hamilton, McGarry (all Belfast based)

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Re: Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 September 14 16:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Jolene1987,

Do you have any other information?  For example approx year of birth for Ernie Johnston.

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Re: Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 September 14 14:53 BST (UK) »
In 1911
47 in Cambrai Street (Shankill, Antrim)
Black Robert 80 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Antrim Retired Merchant Read and write - Married - - - -
Black Hessie 74 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Antrim - Read and write - Married - 44 4 4
Black Robert 39 Male Son Presbyterian Co Antrim Assistant Draper Read and write - Married - - - -
Black Allan 12 Male Grand Son Presbyterian Co Antrim Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
Black John 10 Male Grand Son Presbyterian Co Antrim Scholar Read and write - Single -

John Kelso was from Roseleigh Street

So did you look at the Irish Census for 1901 and 1911?
Start with John Kelso, in 1911 there are John Kelso’s living in Ballygomartin Road, Byron Place, Conlig Street, Disraeli Street, Hillview Street, Hillview Street, Regent Street, Woodvale Street .These are Belfast Co Antrim, there is one in Belfast Co Down in Lomond Avenue with another quantiy outside of Belfast.

The only families containing a James and Lucinda as parents that I could find in 1911 in Cambrai ST  were at No 69 the Quail family Is that right?  There two other Lucindas living in the st.
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Re: Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 September 14 15:58 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   I think that the John Kelso living in Hillview Street is the correct one. The John kelso who married Lucy had a father who was also called John and the John in Hillview St was described as an iron moulder.

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Re: Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 September 14 16:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks guys

I will have a look at Hillview Street and check that out later - that's a great help!

in 1911 Lucy was living at 62 Cambrai Street with her family, I have her info for 1901 and 1911 but I am really stuck on finding out if John and Lucy had children but I guess that is harder to find. 
Black, Dunlop, Pritchard, Todd, Kelso, Hamilton, McGarry (all Belfast based)

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Re: Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 September 14 08:27 BST (UK) »
The 1914 marriage is on
Emerald ancestors, but Kelso births stop earlier
Familysearch.com has two marriages
John Kelso
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
marriage:   October 1914 / December 1914   Belfast, Ireland
 
John Long Kelso
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
marriage:   January 1914 / March 1914   Belfast, Ireland

and some sad early baby or childhood deaths for the name John Kelso
John Kelso
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
birth:   1916   
death:   July 1916 / September 1916   Belfast, Ireland
 
John Kelso
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
birth:   1916   
death:   April 1919 / June 1919   Belfast, Ireland
 
John Kelso
Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
birth:   1917   
death:   October 1919 / December 1919   Belfast, Ireland

I am entering a timescale 1914- in which I dont have experience in looking for births.
The way forward is either General Register Office (NI) ie  GRONI which has Registration indexes Eg births registered from 1 January 1864 in what is now Northern Ireland. It also maintains a public search room where you can search computerised indexes. The index provides name, date and place of event. BUT it has restrictions OR if you can find out if they had a church wedding, that church might also record births
So over to other sand yourself. Good luck JimG
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Re: Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 September 14 08:53 BST (UK) »
John Kelso   death:   July 1916 / September 1916   Belfast, Ireland
John Kelso, age 10 months, 6 Perth St., died 3 Sept.1916

John Kelso   death:   April 1919 / June 1919   Belfast, Ireland
John Kelso   death:   October 1919 / December 1919   Belfast, Ireland

John Kelso,age 2 years, Workhouse, died 15 June 1919, buried 11 Nov.1919

Both burials are Belfast City Cmetery but in public ground so you won't find family members buried with them.

https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/
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Re: Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 September 14 09:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone! I will have a look over the weekend.  Appreciate all the help :)
Black, Dunlop, Pritchard, Todd, Kelso, Hamilton, McGarry (all Belfast based)

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Re: Lucy (Louie) & John Kelso, Belfast
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
My grandfather is Ernest Johnson and his wife was Irene.
My mother was adopted by Lucy Kelso and we live in Australia
My aunt Roberta Kelso Dowds is still alive in Australia
She is the only living child of the Kelso.
There’s another cousin Vera aged 95 alive too
Leeanne