William Ellis and Fanny Thackeray, Sheffield and Rotherham

[Chatcat]

I have a marriage for William Ellis of Brightside, Sheffield, and Fanny Thackeray of Rotherham in Rotherham on 1 May 1836, but have been unable to identify their families or origin. They were born about 1815. I have found them in all the censuses from 1841 - 1891. William was a silver plater brazier (1851 and 1861 censuses). Does anyone know where they were christened, and who their parents were?

[Pennines]

Just a thought -- Fanny is often a nickname for Frances.

In addition -- have you considered checking non-conformist baptisms?

[bevj]

The marriage is on the Sheffield indexers http://www.sheffieldindexers.com site, with the bride named as Fanny, not Frances, but unfortunately neither baptism is there.

Familysearch has this one

Fanny Thackray
Gender:    Female
Christening Date:    17 May 1812
Christening Place:    ROTHERHAM,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:    14 Apr 1812
Father's Name:    William Thackray
Mother's Name:    Mary

but it may not be the right one.

Where are they in 1841 and 1851?  I can't see them 

Bev

[Chatcat]

Yes, I have that record and all censuses from 1841 to1891 plus death certificates, as well as 2 possible christenings for William Ellis, but no birth or baptism for Fanny and the marriage record doesn't seem to mention parents.

[Chatcat]

Sorry -
I didn't see the second message. Yes, that is correct. She died in November 1892 aged 79.  Does this marriage record also identify William's parents? Thank you ver much.

[bevj]

I'm afraid that marriage certs from that era didn't give parents' names.

I still can't see them on the census 

Bev

[Chatcat]

1851 census
Piece:   2339
Folio:   944
Page Number:   13
From 1861-1891 at 42 Walkley St, Nether Hallam, Sheffield.
Familysearch brings nothing up for me re Fanny Thackray, Rotherham. She was a year older than him on all the censuses, so I thought she was born in 1814  - but she may have just knocked a year off! 

[bevj]

Ages were a bit of a moveable feast

[evanswa]

Hi, I'm new to Rootschat.  I found a copied birth certificate of my great-great grandfather not long ago from my dec. father's possessions and decided to search for info re my great-great grandparents, William Ellis and Fanny Thackray. Their son John, I believe, was my paternal grandmother's (Florence Margaretta[Margarita?] Ellis's) father.  John married Maria Shackell, who was of Italian/English descent.  They lived in Subiaco, Western Australia and I think had several children, inc Florence my grandmother.  Florence married William Hayes from Woodside in South Australia and they had nine children.  The name is spelled "Thackray" on the birth certificate that I have, however, I note that spelling of names does seem to be a bit changeable on old documents.  I have more information on John if anyone is interested.  Very pleased to chat with extended family!