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Re: Reverend Edward Poole and his son James Poole in Caynham and Ludlow
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 January 15 18:57 GMT (UK) »
I have been on the trail of this family for a while now and cannot get any further back with confidence.

The Reverend Edward Poole died in 1776 in Caynham and left a will.  In his will he bequeathed property to his adult children.  I already knew about the children from other sources so the will was simply confirmation.

His wife was apparently named Mary and she came with a thousand pound dowry - pretty good for the 1740s.  I have no idea at all of her maiden name and would love to find it.  Mary died in 1772 in Caynham.

Ch:

Mary b 1741 m (1) Benjamin Biddulph (2) Ralph Cope Hopton
Elizabeth b 1742 lived to elderly age as a spinster
Frances b 1744 m Thomas Cooke
Edward b 1746 m Catherine
James bc 1745 m Ann prob Cooper
Ann bc 1748 m Rev John Taylor

James is my husband's line. 

James was in the military and is generally referred to as 'Major James Poole' in newspaper announcements.  He became the Paymaster-General to the troops in Ireland at a time of which there seem to be no surviving records. 

James and Ann had the following children:

Mary Ann 1773 in Ludlow did not marry
Frances 1776 in Ludlow, m (1) Lambert Middleton (2) Marcus Annesley
Elizabeth 1779 in Ludlow no further knowledge
Jane 1781 in Ludlow did not marry
James 1786 m Margaret Fielden and died of injuries sustained in Battle of Waterloo
Caroline 1788 in Mordiford Herefordshire (my husband's ancestress)


I would like to learn more of the lines of Edward and James' wives.  I believe James married Anne Cooper in Market Drayton and that she was of good family but I have no good confirmation of this.  Edward's wife was clearly from a wealthy family.

The Reverend Edward Poole is commonly considered to be the son of James Poole and Ann Jauncey.  I don't believe anyone has confirmed his age at death, but since he has a son James I can see why this is considered.  Edward's will also references Jauncey heirlooms which he is passing on, so this also lends credence to the idea.  However, every attempt to position Edward in this family is a leap of faith in some direction - it is not an easy fit.

It seems possible that James is the name of Edward's father in law.  It is also possible that the Jauncey heirlooms came through her family, if we only knew who she was.

I have been spurred on to further research after DNA testing has showed a match with descendants of surname Garner from Shropshire and I am curious since I do not know of a link to that family.  However, I notice that Garners can be found everywhere that Pooles and Coopers can.

Where should I look for this information?  I was hoping the Rev Edward's wife's burial details would have something but it just says 'Widow of the Rev Edward Poole'.

The marriage record for James Poole and Anne Cooper likewise has no details to assist.

I have not located a marriage for Edward.  Are there missing records for Shropshire? 

I am reasonably certain of Ann's age at death, there are three unrelated documents which have her born either late 1747 or early 1748.  Therefore a likely birth for her is in Shrewsbury to John Cooper and Elizabeth Jones.  But I am not finding any confirmation of this either.

Does anyone know this family or know of a resource which might help me learn more?

Irene
I cannot help with Edward but brother James also a son of Richard Poole of Barr's Court Hereford where James and probably Edward was born. Richard bought a house called Homend in Stretton Grandison Herefordshire in 1703. James' descendants lived there until the 1960s/70s when the house and contents were sold. My interest is in one Edward Poole 1775-1848 great, great grandson of Richard. His father and grandfather were also called James. He married Catherine Biddle, was deputy Recorder of Hereford, made money and has Sir Robert Smirke re-build his house. He had two sons neither of whom produced offspring and two daughters, one of whom, Francesproduced a son called Walter in1855. He was living at the 1871 census but then disappears from view. His two sisters Elvira and Madeline were living in Westminster, unmarried in 1902

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Re: Reverend Edward Poole and his son James Poole in Caynham and Ludlow
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 October 16 23:51 BST (UK) »
Edward Poole married to Mary daughter of Rev Francis Wadeley of Gladestry he is the fourth son of James Poole eldest son of Vicar of Stretton Gransome, born 1649 buried Stretton 14th Jan 1720. James was married to Anne daughter of John Tauncry ~(not sure of spelling) of Whitwick co Hereford in parish od Streton 12th June 1683 and buried there 5 sept 1729.
James' parents were Richard Poole, of Barrs Court died 1683 aged 59 and Charitie daughter of Walter Rodd of Presteigne.
Richards parents were Richard Poole of Taddington died 1659 aged 80 and Anne daughter of John Parry of Dewlas
Richard's father was also Richard
Hope this helps

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Re: Reverend Edward Poole and his son James Poole in Caynham and Ludlow
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 October 16 03:23 BST (UK) »
Goodness, it helps enormously!  Thank you so much, I have many avenues to explore now.  Were those details from a published announcement or some such? 

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Re: Reverend Edward Poole and his son James Poole in Caynham and Ludlow
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 December 16 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Edward Poole who was my 5th great grandfather married Mary Wadeley on 3rd April 1733 at Gladestry, Radnorshire, Wales. I enclose screen shot of the parish entry. Edward and Mary named their 1st 2 children, Anne and Francis after Mary's parents.