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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 September 14 09:25 BST (UK) »
Good find Neil.

NSW ER 1878 PARRAMATTA
William H NICHOL, of Parramatta Junction, freehold Harris Park.

Cheers,  JM

Is that from SANDS?

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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 September 14 09:30 BST (UK) »
Could this be the marriage?

5561/1863 William NICHOLLS married Margaret FINNIGAN @ Sydney


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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 September 14 09:33 BST (UK) »
Could be them as they had nine kiddies from 1864 to 1879 at Parramattata

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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 September 14 09:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks for those suggestions,  I will pass it on to my sister's husband's sister to look into.

According to my relatives' huge file on this family, which they have been working on for decades, William Nichols (1854-1934), the older half-brother of Sophia Madgwick,  was a poor gold miner his whole life and lived at Apple Tree creek which I believe is just south of Mudgee.    Maybe he also owned land at Harris Park, Parramatta. But I kind of doubt it.

Apparently this newspaper story only came to light recently and they are bamboozled who this Elsie may have been.

It is curious that the Wellington paper names the neice as Elsie Nichols and the "australian newsletter for australian people" names the niece as Elsie Nicholls.  They are also ambivalent about Windorah or Windora.  I wonder what the Mudgee paper's version will say.






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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #13 on: Monday 29 September 14 09:38 BST (UK) »
Could this be the marriage?

5561/1863 William NICHOLLS married Margaret FINNIGAN @ Sydney

William was supposedly born around 1854,  so that might be a bit early for him to be married.  Although there are factual conflicts whether William or his sister Catherine was older.

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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #14 on: Monday 29 September 14 09:49 BST (UK) »
This may be the in memorium notice for the couple William and Margaret. They died in the same year, so perhaps we are looking at the wrong people.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/15850449?searchTerm=william%20AND%20%22margaret%20nicholls%22&searchLimits=exactPhrase=margaret+nicholls

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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #15 on: Monday 29 September 14 09:50 BST (UK) »
Do you have Williams' death certificate or details of his death?

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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #16 on: Monday 29 September 14 10:23 BST (UK) »
I don't know if it is the wrong family as one of the children was Ruth Nicholls she must have married someone by the name of Knowles?
I don't think we should discount anybody as we don't have a birth date, but you can if you like. ::)
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Re: Who was Elsie Nichols ? Bridesmaid in 1907
« Reply #17 on: Monday 29 September 14 10:31 BST (UK) »
It says here that William Nichols died on the 23rd April 1934 at Church Street Mudgee, late of Cudgegong shire.  His death certificate says he was a miner.

It says he was born on 12 january 1854 and baptised 7 March 1854,   and his sister Catherine was born on 10 december 1851 and baptised on the same day 7 March 1854.  Which makes it seem that Catherine was 2 years and 1 month older than William.   These dates apparently come from the film of the baptism register.

However, the death certificate of their father,  John Nichols, who died in 1868,   says that William and 16 and Catherine 14.   And the death certificate of their mother who died in 1929 says her children were William (77)  and Catherine(75).   

This apparently makes it seem likely that the preacher who baptised both of them in 1854,  wrote down their birthdays the wrong way around in his book.