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Where is Toberay?
« on: Wednesday 01 October 14 05:34 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any idea where the farm/estate of Toberay is or might have been? It existed in the mid 1700s in the parish of Abernethie & Kincardine. However, I've not found it on any map.

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Re: Where is Toberay?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 06:20 BST (UK) »
Just having a look for it now but no luck as yet.

Did the place name refer to a birth, marriage or death record?

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Re: Where is Toberay?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 06:24 BST (UK) »
Tobar is Gaelic for a well or spring. It may be a very small place which is no longer inhabited. Have you looked at older maps? If you go to the National Library of Scotland maps website, you will get free access to 19th century large-scale Ordnance Survey maps. You will also find Roy's mid-18th century military map there. Witnesses to baptisms can often be neighbours, so if check the area where they are from, you might find it.

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Re: Where is Toberay?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 06:42 BST (UK) »
In 1901 a widow  Annie Cameron age 56 b in Abernethy and a farmer was living at a property with the address of Toberai, Abernethy & Kincardine

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Re: Where is Toberay?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 06:46 BST (UK) »

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Re: Where is Toberay?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 07:09 BST (UK) »
Looks promising Kay.  :)

I've been attempting to find the place on older NLS maps, and getting quite lost (many maps not seeming to open) - nothing new there. I love the NLS maps but find it difficult to navigate around the site and the maps.

I think GR2s suggestion of military maps may be a good one - if the place Kay found is right it is not far from "Old Military Road".

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Re: Where is Toberay?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 07:21 BST (UK) »
The maps are a nightmare as many do not show this part of the area. 

It is shown on the One Inch Popular 1921-1930 Map on the NLS at the top of the map covering Aviemoor

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Edit -also on the same map for 1945-48 covering Grantown-on-Spay

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Re: Where is Toberay?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 07:23 BST (UK) »
I've just discovered that there is no coverage for some areas for some dates.  :(

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Re: Where is Toberay?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 October 14 07:31 BST (UK) »
After much messing about I found it on the 21-30 map - at last. ::) I'd say that's got to be the right place. Looks like a farmstead - just a couple of buildings marked on the map.