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Two Soldiers from Armagh who died in september 1944
« on: Thursday 02 October 14 08:49 BST (UK) »

Good day,
My name is Raimondo Bogaars, and I am doing research for the foundation Erfgoed 40-45, gemeenten Valkenswaard en Waalre.
Our foundation, collects, preserves and educates the history of World War II in the vicinity of Valkenswaard en Aalst-Waalre, Holland.
At the moment my research is focused on the soldiers who are buried in the war cemetery of Valkenswaard and leopoldburg. These soldiers fought and died from the 10th till the  17th of september 1944, during the opening battles of operation Market Garden.

For this I am looking for relatives and information of:

Thomas George Clarke
Rank: Guardsman
Service No: 2719127
Date of Death/ MIA: 17/09/1944
Regiment/Service: Irish Guards
Age: 26
Son of James and Jane C. Clarke , of Corkley, Almachin, Co. Armagh, Northern Ireland
Nephew of Mrs. J.W. Johnston Abbey street, Armagh.

Lawrence David Alexander Crozier
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No: 6985004
Date of Death: 14/09/1944
Regiment/Service: Irish Guards
Age: 20
Son  of Robert John and Jennie Crozier, of Glenanne, Co. Armagh, Northern Ireland

All the best from Holland,
Raimondo Bogaars

www.erfgoed40-45.nl

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Re: Two Soldiers from Armagh who died in september 1944
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 October 14 11:40 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   I wonder if the second link should read http://www.irishguards.org.uk/

Regards
Stewart, Irwin, Morrison, Haslett, Murrell - Dungiven area Co. Londonderry
Browne, Barrett -Co.Armagh
Neil, Smyth _Co. Antrim

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Re: Two Soldiers from Armagh who died in september 1944
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 October 14 10:28 BST (UK) »
yes it should be irishguards with a S

sorry I was running out of time on the machine.

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Re: Two Soldiers from Armagh who died in september 1944
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 October 14 17:30 BST (UK) »

... I am looking for relatives and information of:

Thomas George Clarke
Rank: Guardsman
Service No: 2719127
Date of Death/ MIA: 17/09/1944
Regiment/Service: Irish Guards
Age: 26
Son of James and Jane C. Clarke , of Corkley, Almachin, Co. Armagh, Northern Ireland
Nephew of Mrs. J.W. Johnston Abbey street, Armagh.


A possibility for parents has to be a James Clarke who married a Jane C Warnock in Clarkesbridge Presbyterian Church, Cortamlat Road, Altnamackin, on 6 July 1914.  Both bride's and groom's fathers were called William. This is potentially them with their families in 1911:

James Clarke:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Armaghbrague/Corkley/321509/

Jane C Warnock:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Armaghbrague/Corkley/321500/

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Re: Two Soldiers from Armagh who died in september 1944
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 October 14 17:37 BST (UK) »

... I am looking for relatives and information of:

Lawrence David Alexander Crozier
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No: 6985004
Date of Death: 14/09/1944
Regiment/Service: Irish Guards
Age: 20
Son  of Robert John and Jennie Crozier, of Glenanne, Co. Armagh, Northern Ireland


Likewise, contenders for parents have to be a Robert John Crozier who married a Jennie Kernaghan in Downshire Road Presbyterian Church, Newry, on 1 August 1917.

Edited to add: Bride's father was Samuel Kernaghan, groom's was Robert Crozier, these are just possibilities for them living with their families in 1911:

Robert John Crozier:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tullyhappy/Rathcarbry/307322/

Jennie (Jane?) Kernaghan - this is the closest I could find:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Tullyhappy/Keady_Beg/307265/


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Re: Two Soldiers from Armagh who died in september 1944
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 October 14 18:14 BST (UK) »
So to sum up I'm suggesting that:

- Thomas George Clarke was possibly the son of James Clarke and Jane C Warnock; and

- Lawrence David Alexander Crozier was possibly the son of Robert John Crozier and Jennie Kernaghan.

Hopefully these possibilities might trigger other posts.

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Re: Two Soldiers from Armagh who died in september 1944
« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 December 14 22:30 GMT (UK) »
WW2 Crozier DA L Cpl Irish Guards
L/Cpl Crozier was killed in action on 11/09/1944. He was the son of Robert John and Jennie Crozier, of Glenanne, Armagh. He was the youngest of four brothers and had enlisted in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers aged just 16 years. He later transferred to the Irish Guards and was killed in North West Europe aged 20.                                                                                                    His brother RobertCrozier MM was also killed.
I have newspapers article which I will post later, I have problem with a laptop which has the details
Yours Aye
Joe

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Re: Two Soldiers from Armagh who died in september 1944
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 November 17 15:03 GMT (UK) »
I was a fourteen year old boy when my brother George ( guardsman Thomas George Clarke) was killed in action in 1944. George was in the second armoured battalion of the the Irish guards who were leading the assault across the Dutch border on the 17 September 1944 which was intended to link up with the airborne at Arnhem. George was killed when his tank was hit and set on fire on the road to Valkenswaard. In the cemetery at Valkenswaard there are six headstones bearing the Irish Guards logo and the inscription ‘a soldier of the second world war’and the date 17 th September 1944. We believe that George’s remains are in one of these six graves.