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Walter Allison death help - Chester
« on: Thursday 09 October 14 05:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Was wondering if you could help me find a possible death of an ancestor

Walter Allison was born April 9th 1856 in Glasgow in Scotland
His parents were John Allison and Ann/Annie McCormack
he is found in the 61 and 71 scottish census but not the 81 census but i have found someone with the same details as him in the 91 and 1901 census in England registered in Christchurch, Chester, St Oswald. He is married to Jane who is from Ireland and they would have been married between 1880-85 but i dont know where. what makes me think its also him is because of his childrens names, john, james, annie, walter and mary elizabeth. John could be after his dad, annie after his mum, walter after him self and james and mary elizabeth could be from the wifes side. he is gone by 1911 so died after 1901. Mary Elizabeth seems to be the last child born to survive or in all the last child they had.

Was wondering if anyone could help me with it to try find out if he is the same man

Thanks

Gary
Hamilton, Lanarkshire - Devine, McGarry, Daisley, McGuire, Mullen, Sheridan, Ford
Blantyre, Lanarkshire - Gibson, Hamill, McInulty
Avondale, Strathaven - Mulligan, Dempsey
Glasgow - Sinclair, Allison, McFarlane
Renfrewshire - Allison
Perthshire - Sinclair, Roy, Donaldson
Edinburgh and Caithness Thurso - Sutherland
Edinburgh and Ayrshire - Sheridan

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Re: Walter Allison death help - Chester
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 October 14 06:06 BST (UK) »
Have you discounted this death? Cheshire BMD lists is as within the district of Chester Cathedral

Sept Qtr 1901   Walter Allison   Age 45 Chester 8a 256

Kay

Edit - the 1891 and 1901 census both list him as born in Scotland and in 1891 specifically Glasgow

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Re: Walter Allison death help - Chester
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 October 14 06:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

A possibility for the 1881 census RG11 Piece 4000 Folio 74 Page 5 for Walter Allison in Manchester, England born Bridgeton, Scotland. Age and occupation match the 1891 census.

There is no obvious marriage but the birth certificate for one of his children would give his wifes maiden name which may help.

Andy

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Re: Walter Allison death help - Chester
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 October 14 11:24 BST (UK) »
Hiya Andy - is he an Iron Moulder aged 26 ,single in 1881 at 311 Oldham Road ...if so we know he married 1881 onwards ..
ADDED....OK it is the same man ...just checked...
Bridgeton is in East Glasgow
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeton,_Glasgow
do we know the year of birth for his firstborn so we can narrow down a marriage ..
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford


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Re: Walter Allison death help - Chester
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 October 14 15:29 BST (UK) »
Thats him!!! The whole family stayed in Bridgeton back then :D

So hes in Manchester in 1881 then.

His first born would be around 1885 i think and it says they were all born in chester

Hamilton, Lanarkshire - Devine, McGarry, Daisley, McGuire, Mullen, Sheridan, Ford
Blantyre, Lanarkshire - Gibson, Hamill, McInulty
Avondale, Strathaven - Mulligan, Dempsey
Glasgow - Sinclair, Allison, McFarlane
Renfrewshire - Allison
Perthshire - Sinclair, Roy, Donaldson
Edinburgh and Caithness Thurso - Sutherland
Edinburgh and Ayrshire - Sheridan

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Re: Walter Allison death help - Chester
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 October 14 18:22 BST (UK) »
Looks like they were all registered Chester Cathedral
Mary Elizabeth 1894   Chester Cathedral  CAT / 75 / 11
Walter 1891 Chester Cath   CAT / 70 /
Annie 1889   Chester Cath   CAT / 66 / 50
John  1885  Chester Cath  CAT / 59/ 98
THERE IS ALSO
Jane 1887  Chester Cath  CAT / 63 / 14 ...might be another child  ??
ADDED Jane Allison bap 31st July 1887  Chester - parents Walter and Jane
Isabella Allison bap 24th March 1897 Chester
ALL the children are baptised Christ Church ,Chester - reg Chester Cathedral -so they had 6 children without James ??...can`t find a James - if James is definitely a child of Walter and Jane then that makes 7
so Walter Allison to Jane between 31st March 1881 and 1885 ....freebmd only has one
dec qtr 1881 Walter Allison to Betsy Button or Jane Fowler    Glanford Brigg , Lincs  7a 1335
we need to see if Walter and Jane married - otherwise it might be a Scottish or Irish marriage ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Walter Allison death help - Chester
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 October 14 22:31 BST (UK) »
http://archivedatabases.cheshire.gov.uk/cms/LacOverleighCemetery/results.aspx?Surname=allison&Firstname=&GraveNumber=&YearOfDeathFrom=&YearOfDeathTo=&AgeRange=

Most of these lived in 23 Church Street , Chester. They are buried in Overleigh Cemetery, quite a few are in Grave Number: R556

1901  23 Church St Chester
Walter Allison  44 b Scotland
 Jane Allison  38 b Ireland
 John Allison  16 all children b Chester.
 Annie Allison  11
 Walter Allison  9
 Lizzie Allison  6
 


 



 
 
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Re: Walter Allison death help - Chester
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 October 14 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Was this the right Walter buried in Overleigh ?
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Re: Walter Allison death help - Chester
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 14:21 GMT (UK) »
god so sorry I thought I replied!

I believe it is him :) so many similarities relating to his children and parents and age etc. So walter moved to England and had a family, possibly got married here.

Gary
Hamilton, Lanarkshire - Devine, McGarry, Daisley, McGuire, Mullen, Sheridan, Ford
Blantyre, Lanarkshire - Gibson, Hamill, McInulty
Avondale, Strathaven - Mulligan, Dempsey
Glasgow - Sinclair, Allison, McFarlane
Renfrewshire - Allison
Perthshire - Sinclair, Roy, Donaldson
Edinburgh and Caithness Thurso - Sutherland
Edinburgh and Ayrshire - Sheridan