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Offline pete edwards

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George Edwards,
« on: Friday 10 October 14 14:11 BST (UK) »

Hi all  :)

not often I ask for a request, but can anybody on here confirm what I  suspect,

George Edwards married Sarah Rowe, 12 March 1808  Cound ( Shropshire ),  I have them on all census from 1841 onwards, this I know as fact,

I think George was born in Uffington,  son of James and Jane , 

Methinks there is a link with Ryton 11 towns,

Many thanks in advance for your time,

Pete,
Edwards, mainly Cound, Frodesely, Acton Burnell. Pitchford. and surrounding villages, Shropshire, /  Rowe, Cound, / Littlehales, Berrington, Shropshire / Radford, Dublin, /   Maguire, Acton Burnell, /  Rudge, Frodesely, /

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Re: George Edwards,
« Reply #1 on: Friday 10 October 14 17:39 BST (UK) »
Hello Pete,

From the information on 1841 and 1851 Census what is his date of birth ?
Also what is his profession ?
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Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: George Edwards,
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 October 14 18:14 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=199854.msg1002235#msg1002235

Pete's Puzzle, a similar thread.

Pete do you have the full marriage ?
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: George Edwards,
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 October 14 09:16 BST (UK) »
Hiya Pete - I am a little confused .
according to Familysearch - George Edwards married Sarah Rowe in Condover 12th March 1808 - not Cound ...BUT ..
it also has a George Edwards in 1841 census born in 1791 in Cound ...this would make George Edwards only 17 at the marriage if he is the right George ??
can I ask where you found the marriage was in Cound ??
Margaret Edwards bap 5th june 1808 in Cound - parents George and Sarah - is this their firstborn ?
if so she was born 3 months after the marriage - so maybe George was only 17 and came from Cound and returned back to Cound after the marriage ?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNQ3-W3V
where are George and Sarah in 1841 census - is it Cound ?....if so - it looks like the George b 1791 in Cound
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: George Edwards,
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 October 14 12:20 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the time all,   :)   I found this marriage by visiting Shropshire archives,  I.G.I.,  I am looking at a copy of the cert from the original, 

the marriage was by banns.

they both give there parish as Cound, try as I might I cannot find a George Edwards born in Cound, spent many hours in the archives ( only 15 mins walk ) trying,  witnesses,

In the presence of   Paul          Edwards
                             Margret    Evans

yes I think that Margret was the first born, 

Cound parish registers ( I have seen the orignals )

5      Jan     1808     Margret  d of  Geo and Sarah  Edwards
25   Feb      1816     Margret Edwards of Coundmoor  aged 7  buried

28  Feb    1859     George  Edwards of Coundmoor   aged 71  buried
9    sept   1868     Sarah   Edwards  of Coundmoor  aged  84 buried

I am prety certain that they may have been closet Catholics as there offspring were baptised at the nearby Acton burnell R/C church,

Again thanks for all your time :) :)

Pete

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Re: George Edwards,
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 October 14 12:25 BST (UK) »
they both give there parish as Cound, try as I might I cannot find a George Edwards born in Cound, spent many hours in the archives ( only 15 mins walk ) trying,  witnesses,

The parish mentioned on a marriage certificate is simply where they were living during the required qualifying period while the banns were called!

It most certainly does not imply they were born there!


I assume you are looking at the Parish Record, and not the IGI?
Marriage certificates only came into being on 1st July 1837! ;D
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Re: George Edwards,
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 October 14 12:33 BST (UK) »
Silly question I suppose - but could Condover actually be Cound Over ?....a part of Cound ...?...gonna google Condover
added....no Condover is the correct spelling
by road they are 9 miles apart - but it is like going around a Horseshoe shaped road ...in effect across land I would say no more than 3 miles ...
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Re: George Edwards,
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 October 14 17:06 BST (UK) »
http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/Cound.html
I have seen Edwards, from Cressage, only up the road.

Pete, have you checked neighbouring Parishes ?

Sorry, what was George Edwards, occupation ?

Paul Edwards, witness at the marriage, how does he fit in with your family ?

Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: George Edwards,
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 October 14 17:38 BST (UK) »
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock