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Offline bigmagicdog

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y Waun Araw, Dinas
« on: Friday 10 October 14 17:27 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

y Waun Araw, Dinas

Please will someone advise me if there was a street of this name in Dinas, Rhondda. I was looking at the Creed register for Lllwnypia Workhouse and this was the address given for the 'informant'. I cannot find this street on a map so it may have been demolished but would appreciate it if someone could tell me where it was.
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Re: y Waun Araw, Dinas
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 13:12 BST (UK) »
Hi, A bit of wishful thinking here on your part but could it be Ty'n Y Waun and possibly a different Dinas?

I haven't seen the register myself but I am wondering if the address is incomplete or said in Welsh so the English translation would be different?

What year are we looking at roughly?
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Re: y Waun Araw, Dinas
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Chasing-fireflies

Thanks for the help. It is Dinas Rhondda and I shall go back there and photo the entry. The tear is 1908
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Re: y Waun Araw, Dinas
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 13:27 BST (UK) »
Ok so it's the Dinas near Porth then and not Dinas Powys? I shall go and see what I can find now.

Fingers crossed!
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Re: y Waun Araw, Dinas
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 13:34 BST (UK) »
I have found this photo on flicker, I am assuming I can share it but I am sure the MODS will correct me if I am wrong:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/thereggy/5403898455/in/set-72157613023684112

It shows a lot of the old areas so it might be worth looking for something similar to what is on the register in case it was spelled incorrectly at the time.

I also found this old topic which might interest you:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=237276.0
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Re: y Waun Araw, Dinas
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 20:00 BST (UK) »
somehting has come up on welsh Newspapers online
(http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3373510/ART9/waun%20arw - Weekly Mail 12 March 1887)
A ghost story/local fable of a yuong man called Abraham who was courting a maid at "y Collenna"

Yr oedd Abraham yn byw ger y Graigddu, Dinas. Mae y Collenna tua thair milldir oddiyno. Ar y cyfnod dan sylw yr oedd y tair milldir rhwng y ddau le yn unigedd dim ond Dinas Isaf, tua chanol y ffordd. Wel, bu cariad Abraham farw, a bu bron tori ei galon ar ei hoI. Un noson dywyll yr oedd yn myned tua chartref dros y Uethr coediog ar ochr y Graigddu i'r Cwm, a phan ar droedffordd y Waun Arw,

Abraham was living near y Graigddu, Dinas. Y Collenna is about 3 miles away. At this time these three mils between the two places were very lonely, only Dinas Isaf, about halfway. Wel, Abraham's love died and he almost broke his heart. One dark night he was heading home over the wooded slope on the side of y Graigddu to the Cwm, a when he was at the y Waun Arw crossroad...

Y Collenna is in the Tonyrefail area, and have seen reference to y Graigddu being south of Dinas (although there is a road of that name in Maerdy). this may help narrow it down...

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Re: y Waun Araw, Dinas
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 August 17 17:31 BST (UK) »
I came across this earlier today as I am interested in Graigddu and Gwaunadda, Dinas and saw Waun Araw. This was Dinas Llantrisant, Glamorgan, obviously as you were searching the Llwynypia records.  Sorry cannot recall where I read this.
I should have added that I know this query is several years old:-))
WALES: Bevan, David, Thomas in area of Ystradyfodwg [Rhondda] Llangeinor and Bettws [Glam] Glamorgan Farms of interest: Graigddu, Gwaunadda, Llwynypia, Maesllan, Penygraig and Cwmsaerbren | RAYMOND, St Davids Pembrokeshire; OWEN St Davids Pembrokeshire; JONES Upper Neath Valley;
ENGLAND: Somerset, Yatton, Kenn, Portishead, Weston-i-Gardano, Clevedon & Bristol. Names: Nethway, Perris, Knight, Gosling, Payne.

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Re: y Waun Araw, Dinas
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 23:39 BST (UK) »
Y Waun Arw is recognisable as a Welsh place name; Y Waun Araw is not a likely candidate.