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First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« on: Saturday 11 October 14 08:34 BST (UK) »
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Wonder if someone can find a first marriage for William FORDE, b 1782 in Derrygooney.  He married Sarah McEVEIGH in 1853 at Corlea but was apparently married previously.  He died in 1868, again at Derrygooney.

He and his first wife had a number of children.  George (1825), Samuel, Sarah, and William (all seemingly around 1830) and Margaret (1835).
NEAL, TAYLOR, WRIGHT, BIDWELL, PRICE, YEARDLEY, RODGERS, HANDLEY, ELLIS, LOWE, HOUGH, ANNABLE, DAWSON, SANDERSON, PARKIN

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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 October 14 14:40 BST (UK) »
I'd start with the records for Ireland on familysearch, if you found them it should show their religion which would cut down on looking for kin in g/yards etc. If Presbyterian then look in Presbyterian g/yards etc, there are g/yards photographed on IGP. where you can search by name or townland etc. I'd try Ford too.

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/index.htm

and then you've Records, Headstones etc to choose from.
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 October 14 15:20 BST (UK) »
I'd start with the records for Ireland on familysearch, if you found them it should show their religion which would cut down on looking for kin in g/yards etc. If Presbyterian then look in Presbyterian g/yards etc, there are g/yards photographed on IGP. where you can search by name or townland etc. I'd try Ford too.

http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/index.htm

and then you've Records, Headstones etc to choose from.

I don't think FamilySearch records will show what religion they were  :-\
     Marriage of William Forde & Sarah McVeigh-
     https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGF9-Y91

It's often the Church of Ireland that only kept a burial register, so if no headstone/surviving headstone then there may not be a record of burial. Since the COI was the Established Church then people of other denominations could also be buried there.

Since marriages usually take place at the bride's church, William Forde's first marriage could have taken place elsewhere.
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 October 14 17:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks for those tips.  They were Presbyterian, and this looks likely..unfortunately there's not much info on the stone itself..
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/monaghan-ballybay-1st-Presby/target5.html
NEAL, TAYLOR, WRIGHT, BIDWELL, PRICE, YEARDLEY, RODGERS, HANDLEY, ELLIS, LOWE, HOUGH, ANNABLE, DAWSON, SANDERSON, PARKIN


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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 October 14 18:20 BST (UK) »
Can I also ask if anyone can make sense of what this document means-it comes up on Familysearch for William FORDE but it appears to be an (unsuccessful?) request for a Census extract..
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-33808-13604-54?cc=2346275
NEAL, TAYLOR, WRIGHT, BIDWELL, PRICE, YEARDLEY, RODGERS, HANDLEY, ELLIS, LOWE, HOUGH, ANNABLE, DAWSON, SANDERSON, PARKIN

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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 October 14 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,
   The old age pension was introduced in 1908 and applicants had to prove that they were 70 years old. They tended to rely on the 1841 and 1851 census for this. Your document seems to be an application for the census information for Mrs Mary McBride possibly to support a pension application.

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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 October 14 18:56 BST (UK) »
Mrs McBride applied for the Pension and saying she was nee Mary Ford dau of John and Mary Ford
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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 October 14 23:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks.  What about the "Fras" (?) written above the "Wm" on the left hand side?
NEAL, TAYLOR, WRIGHT, BIDWELL, PRICE, YEARDLEY, RODGERS, HANDLEY, ELLIS, LOWE, HOUGH, ANNABLE, DAWSON, SANDERSON, PARKIN

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Re: First wife of William FORDE from Derrygooney
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 October 14 23:50 BST (UK) »
It could be that 'Fras' (Francis or Frances?) & Wm (William) are older siblings of Mary.
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