Thomas Llewhelin of Dale

[Georgfriedrich]

Dear Fellow Rootschaters,

I am writing to see if anyone is able to tell me the parents of this chap who was, I think, born at Dale somewhere between the years 1785 and 1787.  I made a journey to Dale a few years back - it is not a very big place.

The only information I have about him is that he was a fisherman.  He was alive in 1841 but not (I presume) in 1851 which means (if Freebmd is correct) that he died in in either 1846 or 1848.

Is anyone able to assist with a more concrete baptism date and parentage?

Bye for now,

Kirk

[keyboard86]

Hi their is this baptism original almost shredded!

Thomas LEWHELLIN 1785 DALE father John Mother Theodosia
Their is also a Lewhellin baptised August 1787 Dale Father John no idea if male/female?

Possible marriage if correct:-

John Llewhellin to Theadser? Lewis 7th November 1784 St Brides

Again a possible baptism of a Theodosia Lewis 3rd August 1758 Clarbeston Father John Mother Mary
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again, age a little out but he could be still alive in 1851 and died 9th May 1853 Dale aged 72?

1851 census

Mary Davies 64 Widow
Eliza Edwards 29 Daughter/Married
Abel Edwards 29 Son in Law
William Davies 7 Grandson
Thomas Llewhelling 71 Widow/Brother occ Fisherman
Residing at South Street, Dale
Census Ref HO107/2477/205/17

I notice in 1841 he was with a Hannah Fry b c 1806 Margaret 1824 and William 1826 at Black Rock, Dale
Census ref HO 107/1449/ 4/7 / 8 In 1851 Hannah aged 40 unmarried occ Working on Farm is still there Census ref HO107/2477/204/15, When Margaret Fry marries 14th October 1849 Hubberston to James/Thomas Evans she gives fathers name as "Unknown"

Death Theadosia Llewhelin born c 1756 died 24th December 1816 Dale abode North Street, Dale

If the 1841 Thomas at least is an ancestor, how are you linked?
Keyboard86

[Georgfriedrich]

Hi keyboard86,
Thomas is my partner's ancestor.  He was married and had at least one daughter before being widowed.  He never remarried.  I think that he is indeed that chap who died in 1853, as well as the one baptised in 1785 - probably baptised in childhood rather than at birth.
I am going to order the death certificate to see if it is correct.
I wonder where John Llewhelin was born?

[keyboard86]

Hi again, if Mary is the other baptism b c 1787 it may be worthwhile checking which Mr Davies she married?

John Lewhelin could be the death 18th July 1827 abode West Dale aged 80

What was the name of the daughter of Thomas Llwhellin and who did he marry, and his daughter?
Keyboard86

PS see you have been looking for a long while see reply to the K Rees thread back in 2010 so the marriage is Thomas  Llewellin to Mary Hall 1st November 1817 Dale one of the witnesses could be a Martha Llewhellin, and their daughter was a Martha who married a Rees is this correct?

[Georgfriedrich]

Yes that is correct.
It's funny because I and a feeling that I might have looked for this before on roots chat some time back but only up to Thomas and never back beyond.  I have been working with Keith Rees on trying to get all the details. 
Yes, Thomas' daughter was Martha who was partnered to George Manning Rees.