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Offline Tim Brayshaw

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Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« on: Friday 24 October 14 11:29 BST (UK) »
Jane Wilmot b 6 February 1808 c 6 March 1808 d 3 July 1809
EAST MARKHAM,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
   
Charlotte Wilmot b 21 June 1809   EAST MARKHAM,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND

Janetta Wilmot c 25 March 1814   d 8 October 1815 EAST MARKHAM,NOTTINGHAM,ENGLAND
   
They all have the mother and father as Jane and Thomas Wilmot.

Now looking around that area there seems to be a marriage between a Thomas Wilmott and a Jane Locking in nearby (12 miles) Clarborough. That looks like a good time match and area to me.

Then i am struggling to follow back, or for that matter find their burials. As it seems Jane had a child in 1814 that passed away a year later the one entry on the NBI for a Jane Wilmot doesn't fit in as it is a good few years before that - meaning it must be (looking above) the burial for their child. Then there is (from the NBI) a death for a Thomas Wilmot which makes him born in 1763 making him 51 at the time of his last child's birth.

Can anyone help find any more information for me?
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Re: Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 October 14 12:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Tim,
Source: Nottinghamshire Family History Society
St John the Baptist, East Markham, Notts, Burials:-
03/07/1809, Jane WILMOT
08/10/1815, Janetta WILMOT, aged 18 months
I think your death date for Jane & Janetta is incorrect.
You could try contacting the Nottinghamshire Family History Society to confirm the above data.
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Re: Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 October 14 13:06 BST (UK) »
The 1809 burial was a child

1809 07 03   Jane   WILMOT   abode East Markham   Died 03 07 1809. Daur.of Thos.& Jane.Labr   EAST MARKHAM St John the Baptist


There's another baptism for this couple
dob 1811 12 14      date of baptism 1811 12 21   Son   Thomas   parents Thomas   + Jane WILMOT   EAST MARKHAM St John the Baptist   


Here's a possible burial for Thomas - whether or not it's the correct Thomas I don't know:

1814 01 28   Thomas   WILLMOT   age 60   abode East Markham      EAST MARKHAM St John the Baptist

If that's the correct Thomas (and it's the only possible one listed at E Markham) that would give him a potential yob of 1768

Looking for burials of Jane Wilmot (snr), the only one that could possibly fit date-wise would be this:

1855 01 30   Jane   WILMOT   age 83   abode Walesby      WALESBY St Edmund

so poss yob on 1772 which would be appropriate IF the above was her husband.
There are no potential remarriages for Jane Wilmot listed. I haven't checked the census to see if it gives any clues re Jane in Walesby.
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Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
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Re: Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 October 14 13:16 BST (UK) »
The 1809 burial was a child

1809 07 03   Jane   WILMOT   abode East Markham   Died 03 07 1809. Daur.of Thos.& Jane.Labr   EAST MARKHAM St John the Baptist


There's another baptism for this couple
dob 1811 12 14      date of baptism 1811 12 21   Son   Thomas   parents Thomas   + Jane WILMOT   EAST MARKHAM St John the Baptist   


Here's a possible burial for Thomas - whether or not it's the correct Thomas I don't know:

1814 01 28   Thomas   WILLMOT   age 60   abode East Markham      EAST MARKHAM St John the Baptist

If that's the correct Thomas (and it's the only possible one listed at E Markham) that would give him a potential yob of 1768

Looking for burials of Jane Wilmot (snr), the only one that could possibly fit date-wise would be this:

1855 01 30   Jane   WILMOT   age 83   abode Walesby      WALESBY St Edmund

so poss yob on 1772 which would be appropriate IF the above was her husband.
There are no potential remarriages for Jane Wilmot listed. I haven't checked the census to see if it gives any clues re Jane in Walesby.

Thank you for your reply there, i have found Jane Wilmot in the 1851 census with an interesting line in her occupation; it reads something like...

Formerly an ? Lady Wife - Relief from parish.

This Jane Wilmot was born in Fotherby, Lincolnshire, England and matches the information you have provided above.
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley


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Re: Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 October 14 13:17 BST (UK) »
I can't find any glaringly obvious baptisms for Thomas Wilmot 1768ish or Jane Locking 1773ish, but I've found the Walesby Jane in 1851 (and I think possibly in Tuxford in 1841) and she was born not in county (in 1851 it says Lincolnshire)

cross posting - I think it says on the census that she was formerly an ag.lab wife.
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Re: Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 October 14 13:23 BST (UK) »

cross posting - I think it says on the census that she was formerly an ag.lab wife.

That makes a lot more sense. Thank you for that one.

It does seem to be Jane in 1841 in Tuxford i would agree, and once again there is no spouse with her in either census so it is looking hopeful. It's just that gap between our possible Thomas' death and Jane in the census. There isn't really an further i could do to confirm this i don't think.
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley

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Re: Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 October 14 13:31 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has documents listing T Wilmot as resident in E Markham in 1798.

"A" Thomas Wilmot (but which one?) was found guilty of larceny in Nottingham court in 1829 and was sentenced to 1 week in jail and twice whipped (this could of course be the younger TW). In 1832 he was sentenced to transportation for 7 years for larceny at the Midsummer sessions in Notts.
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Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
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Re: Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 October 14 13:39 BST (UK) »
Before Thomas and Jane, there was a couple called Thomas and Katharine Wilmot having children in E Markham, between 1783 - 1790; this Thomas was also listed as a labourer (though there were a lot of them about!) Katharine died in 1795; 3 of their 4 children died in infancy.

I wonder if this was a first marriage for Thomas and if Jane was his second wife. It would work if he was born late 1760s.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
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Re: Wilmot(t)'s of Nottinghamshire.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 October 14 13:42 BST (UK) »
Before Thomas and Jane, there was a couple called Thomas and Katharine Wilmot having children in E Markham, between 1783 - 1790; this Thomas was also listed as a labourer (though there were a lot of them about!) Katharine died in 1795; 3 of their 4 children died in infancy.

I wonder if this was a first marriage for Thomas and if Jane was his second wife. It would work if he was born late 1760s.

This sounds rather plausible, he does seem to be having children into his mid fifties if it is one and the same Thomas Wilmot.

It might possibly be Jane's second marriage also which is possibly the reason i can't seem to find a Jane Locking in Fotherby, Lincolnshire around the time of her possible birth. Maybe Locking was her first husband's name?

I've seen the two criminal registers so thank you for those, which record types shows a Thomas Wilmot in 1798 living in East Markham?
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley