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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 21 November 14 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Morning all,
I stumbled across this post whilst trying once again to locate Adelaide.
Agree that she is probably the Adelaide Hurling on the Bona list but like all of you I cannot find a marriage for her and her Husband who i think is Frank Hurling.
I wonder if Frank was previously married? Despite trying different permutations I cannot find
any marriage record on either BMD, Ancestry or Genes.
I wonder if their relationship was not formalised as he was legally bound to another?
There is an Adelaide and Frank in the electoral rolls from 1939-1951.
I think he may have died in Chelsea in 1952 as there is an Adelaide is living in the late 50's-60's  in Chelsea.
There is still a question mark over the life and outcome of her Brother William John Springett who is  in the forces, he enlisted in Spitalfields in 1907 and gives his address as a boarding house.
There is a marriage for a William J Springett who married who marries in 1921, it looks as if this Wm died in 1926...

Another possibility is a death of a William J Springett in 1954 which is the same place I think his Father died.
Perhaps between us all we can try to solve a few of the outstanding questions we have in the search of Adelaide...
Where is she in the census of 1911? (I have traced her Great Aunts and Uncles and she does not appear to be with them)
Where is Adealide pre the 1939 electoral roll?
If Frank was married, who was his Wife? (There are a few possibilities)
Is Frank British or did he come over during the war?
What happened to her Brother?

Anyone got any other avenues we need to pursue?

Kind regards
Helen
Green/Wasdall/Tylee/Powell
Hackney and Bethnal Green
Nightingale's of Newport Pond

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 21 November 14 14:23 GMT (UK) »
If the Frank was the one who died in Chelsea in 1952, he would be about 10 years older than Adelaide. There is a Frank Harling birth reg Kensington district Q3 1882.
Marriage for a Frank Harling Q3 1904 Brentford district.
Frank can be found in 1911 and the entry is interesting...
and so can his missing wife


 
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 21 November 14 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the head up on 1911 census.
That new information could well be right.
Kind regards
Helen
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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 21 November 14 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Yes those were the records I was referring to but we cannot post 1911 details due to copyright reasons.
There is a marriage of a Margaret E Harling in Thanet in the same quarter Frank dies to a Mr Allen, and a death of a Margaret E Allen the following year in Thanet her age would match with Frank's wife.
Might be coincidence but she was from that area.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 21 November 14 15:41 GMT (UK) »

There is a Margaret Springett, age 47 died Whitechapel December 1907.  The age and name
combination - might be right.  If her maiden name was Haley - I can't find the birth in St Luke's.

Maybe someone with a bit better understanding of the Parish's might see her ?


On 1881 census is a Haley family with Patrick Haley head born Limerick abt 1834 occ labourer and one of the children is a daughter Margaret born abt 1859 St Pancras. But same family in 1861, where Margaret is one year old, she was born in Limehouse which matches with a Stepney registration in Q1 1860.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 21 November 14 15:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lizzie,
I have the same as you regarding Haley family but do not know a lot about these parishes either.
I cannot confirm any birth records for any of the Haley girls as I have not found their baptisms.
The census records for this family are not all there but the Father is in the electoral roll of 1888 and 1890.
I may not be correct but he may be the inmate in M.E.N.T. in 1901?
I have the marriage of one Sister and the other girls are purely guess work and cannot provide thus far, any more information as to the whereabouts of Adelaide.
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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 21 November 14 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Oops Mile End Old Town.
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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 21 November 14 16:39 GMT (UK) »
There is still a question mark over the life and outcome of her Brother William John Springett who is  in the forces, he enlisted in Spitalfields in 1907 and gives his address as a boarding house.
There is a marriage for a William J Springett who married who marries in 1921, it looks as if this Wm died in 1926...


Just found service record for William John jnr on FindMyPast. When he enlisted in 1907 he gave next of kin as father and mother: William and Margaret which implies they were still alive in 1907.??
The 1921 marriage is on ancestry, not image just transcription, but confirms groom's father is also William John. FreeBMD has birth registration of Elizabeth L Springett Q3 1925 West Ham, mother's maiden name Holley. Can't see any other children so would fit with him dying in 1926.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Can anyone trace Adelaide?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 21 November 14 19:48 GMT (UK) »
The addresses of Frank and Margaret on the 1911 census are also interesting!
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)