Alfred Joshua Clarke 1827

[andmc1]

Hi
i am trying to find his parents

on his marriage to Sarah Butler 30 dec1846 in Witham essex he lists his father as  Joseph clarke

i have a family on 1841 census   but not sure if it is right  father 1841 is Joshua  then 1851 father is Joseph Alfred appears to be listed as joshua aged 15

i am thinking it is the same family as  george scott is onboth records
1851 listed as grand son   i have not worked out whos child he is.

JOseph Clarke   And Elizabeth Sarjent   Could be the above people

1841 Wormingford, Essex, England     is his name joseph or joshua


joshua 48  farmer
elizabeth 48
joseph 28 baker
elizabeth 26
thomas 22
james 18
joshua 15
george 12
Christopher 10
george  scott 1
harriet 14



1851
nivr house  wormingford essex

joseph 60  farmer   polstead suffolk
elizabeth 60             naylands suffolk
joseph 38                  stoke suffolk
elizabeth 35             wormingford
george scott 11 Grandson \wormingford Essex
may e longford 20  house servant assington suffolk


Any thoughts
if this is right family previous parents were  Joseph and and Alice Blunden 

Andrea

[groom]

I would say they are the same family as apart from the father ages and names fit, remember that in the 1841 census the age of a person over 15 was supposed to be rounded down to the nearest multiple of 5. So anyone aged 19 would be listed as 15. Looking at the other ages though, it doesn't look as if this was done. It's also not clear from the census image whether or not they were born in county. I think as you say, the key here is George Scott.

[Milliepede]

The 1841 reads Joseph to me not Joshua so I don't think you have a problem.

George Scott is a little mystery, perhaps he belonged to Elizabeth but why the different surname.

[groom]

There are possibly 3 George Scotts who would fit, agewise I'd go for the first one.

Births Mar 1839   
Scott    George        Lexden    12   115
      
Births Sep 1839   
Scott    George        Lexden &c    12   125      
Scott    George        Lexden &c    12   126

[groom]

This is interesting:

Marriages Sep 1840   
CLARKE    Charles William        Lexden &c.    12   223      
Scott    Elizabeth        Lexden    12   223

Is Charles an older son and could George have been born to Elizabeth before she married Charles, hence the Scott name? So perhaps Elizabeth Clarke in the censuses is a daughter in law, not a daughter.

[nannyj]

I can't see a marriage in the PRs of charles and elizabeth. We're they just 'of Lexden' or was it actually in Lexden?

[nannyj]

George Scott born to james and elizabeth baptised 10/8/1839 in wormingford. Marriages only go up to 1837. Didn't find a death for james.

[andmc1]

Hi thank you for your help

i think the marriage of charles william clarke and Elizabeth scott he is an older brother
and a couple of their children are given a middle name sargent linking to the  charles mothers maiden name .
is right it was in 1840 before the 1841 census
prehaps she was a widow ?
the entry is for lexden so must be an area not just the villiage

[andmc1]

hi thank
 you i think that is the George Scott on my Tree
parents Eliza Ann Clarke and James Scott

and mum Eliza died soon after this birth , hence Geoge living With grand parents