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Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« on: Wednesday 12 November 14 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Which DNA test would be the best?  I am a female trying to find out if my grandparents were the parents of my mother. There is doubt and a suggestion she was left behind in Liverpool in 1910 as a baby, when a Russian Jewish family emigrated to New York.
Any guidance would help our hunt to find out as we have been researching this for 36 years to no avail hence the last resort of a DNA test. My mother is deceased and never knew her birthdate nor can we find her birth certificate. Only my sister and I remain to finish the jigsaw. We have extensively researched both my Fathers and Mothers (supposed ) sides and have found a cousin on Mothers supposed side whose great grandmother was my great grandfathers sister.  I would prefer to have the test myself before approaching this cousin. Thank you.

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Re: Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 14:54 GMT (UK) »
I think that without an unbroken female connection on your cousins line then you would only be able to use Autosomal DNA.
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Re: Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your quick reply and information.
Now to re read all about autosomal tests and decide who to go with .
I am based in Berkshire so maybe I could return your kind assistance.

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Re: Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 19:04 GMT (UK) »
We are neighbours then, I am in Wiltshire.
Maybe I should modify my earlier post has it is your line that is based on a male [gtgrandfather] Although you never mentioned wether your cousin was male or female. It doesn't alter the inability of using mtDNA though.
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 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
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Re: Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to throw a potential spanner in the works but I don’t think there is enough information in your opening post to decide which test is best.

There is no point in taking any test if you don’t have information to compare it with and you have said at this point you do not want to involve your cousin, this may be a mistake as she could provide good comparative data whether you go for an mtDNA or autosomal test.

You have not made it clear if your cousin has a direct female line of descent from your common great great great(?) grandmother. If there was then an mtDNA test could be a good one to go for as both you and your cousin should have the same mtDNA if you both descend through a female only line.

An autosomal test is good for finding family connections and given the possibility of a Russian Jewish family emigrating to New York then testing with family tree DNA may be good as they are heavily USA based and so you may, or may not, throw up some American “cousins”
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 19:22 GMT (UK) »
As I see it;
   GtGrandfather -----------brother -------------   GtGrandmother
     [male] --- [this link negates the use of mtDA] -- - [female] 
        ^                                                                       ^
        ^                                                                       ^
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
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Re: Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Hmm yes reading it that way there is no common female line (hence mtDNA would not work)

Thank you
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 20:12 GMT (UK) »
I would think that,as davidft says a possible "Jewish" connection would be the best outcome. The lack of a connection to your cousins DNA may have no bearing on the parentage of your mother.
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY

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Re: Which DNA test mtDNA or autosomal
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 November 14 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the information. I need to have a think as I have a couple of further questions now !
If I involved my cousin would this be two DNA tests?