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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:27 GMT (UK) »
 :P 1851 was the only one I didn't look at yesterday. Dunse it is then  :)

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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:32 GMT (UK) »
It's indexed as Dasse but image shows Dunse.
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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:46 GMT (UK) »

 I believe the family you have shown on the 1841 census is the correct one and also the 1861 census on Holy Island with James and family, I have him on all census with 1901 the last one.


I think the family I posted for 1841 is not the right one for your James. There looks to be quite a bit of research on this family group.

As I posted earlier, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MW47-BXV  I think this relates to the James we had in that earlier 1841 entry. Mother Elizabeth died in Scotland it seems in the 1840s. Father John and sons headed off to the US it seems. See http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=39725842

So, I think we still need to find James in 1841 (Scotland or England really). By the sounds of it, his marriage to Margaret has still not been found?

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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi.

  I believe his marriage may be a irregular or clandestine marriage.

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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Original post shows her surname as Shell.  There is a Margaret Shiel aged 26 b Berwick on the 1851 census and there is a marriage for a Margaret Shiels in Berwick in the June qtr 1851 which I looked at yesterday.

I double checked the full GRO index but her reg details do not link to a James Darling
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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 16:48 GMT (UK) »
The Scottish 1851 and 1861 has a James Darling b Dunse as well but he was b 1834

The Northumberland 1841 has a James Darling b 1832 Scotland with parents David and Alison

Only the 1871 shows your James b 1829.  All others seem to be 1831/32
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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 17:56 GMT (UK) »
There is this family info for David Darling and Alison Young https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SGLD-PB7

Reference to Duns there in the children's births but stops at the entry for a John in 1830.

Have to say, there is nothing in the childrens' names for James and wife Margaret so far that gives any clues on his parents' names linked back to any family we have seen so far (if he followed any form of Scottish naming pattern...but maybe he didn't, not all did).

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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 18:02 GMT (UK) »
This could be total red herring but James and Margaret look like they have twin boys. Could James himself be a twin?  In 1851 there's a James Darling age 27 along with a John Darling age 27 (both agricultural labourers) living in the household of an Isabella Weatherhead, innkeeper and farmer, Whiteburn, Westruther, Lauder, Berwickshire.  The two lads are showing both born Lauder, 1834 (I know this is a bit out for their ages).
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Re: James Darling born c 1829 Dunse
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monical.

   1841 Census   Kidshiel Haugh Duns Berwickshire

   John Darling   1801
   Elizabeth  Darling 1801
   John Darling   1826
   James Darling 1827
   Thomas Darling 1830

   As you say the father and other sons may have emigrated to USA as I cannot find them
  on the 1851 census for England & Scotland

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