Italian Research

[steve62]

Hi dathai,

I have had a quick read through the other postings and presume you are looking for the parents of Vincent Pacelli 1838 and his wife Mary Rose Sovino 1843.  In Italy that would be "Vincenzo" and "Maria Rosa".
It is possible to get hold of their BC's with just a year. although they prefer 00/00/0000.  Some State Archives have these old records  and some do not.  In the later case it means writing to the Diocesan Archives for that area.  All can take  time.

I need to know their place of Birth here in Italy.  The BC will mention the parents names and there could annotations as to marriage as well.  If I missed something in the other postings please correct me.

Let me know what you know and it is a pleasure to help you if possible.

Steve

[dathai]

Hi Steve
           as you can see i am working back from Francis Pacelli who has had me stumped for several years as his marriage is not registered in Ireland or Scotland,just recently i stumbled across a marriage for his sister in law at which he and his wife were the witnesses so i was able to find his wife's line back one generation and found a few sisters for her.
The wife's cousin had a copy of the travel document 1919 i think where it gives his date of birth as 1868 in Marsicovtere,Potenza,even in the last five minutes i have found 2 travel docs which i had never seen before
Age 46 1913 born 1867
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DQ-GWVC-Q?i=4151&cc=2185163
age 51 1913 born 1862
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DQ-GWJY-1?i=4152&cc=2185163

I have no info on Vincent Pacelli or his wife Mary Rose Savino/Sevino
They said on the 1911 Dublin Census they had 5 children alive and were married 40 yrs
which to me judging on their estimated dates for children would be before 1860
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Trinity_Ward/Brunswick_Street__Great_/88615/
Their son Joseph died 1912 and they returned to Scotland and then emigrated to Canada in 1913 where they died shortly after.

There is no rush as i have waited years to get this far and any thing found after this is a real bonus.

Dathai

oops is that second document dated 1919
there was some talk in the family that he may have been stranded because of WW1

[steve62]

Hi Dathai,
To start with I have written to the "Archivio di Stato Potenza" to see if they can find the BC of Pacelli, Vincenzo 1838 c. and his wife Savino, Maria Rosa 1843 c. and have suggested they were born in Marsicovetere, Potenza.  I know they have some records and lets hope it includes these two years.
Wait for a reply nd take it from there.

Steve

[dathai]

Hi Steve
            you are very helpful and it is much appreciated that you a perfect stranger should offer to do this for me and so many others.
I cant thank you enough no matter what the outcome.

Dathai

[sheronb]

Hello Steve, I have just come across this interesting thread! I have Italian Ancestors and have a lot of info on my great grandfather who was from Sora, Frosinone.... Stato de Civile, birth/marriage acts etc...What I was wondering though if you can obtain info about deaths? 

[steve62]

Hi sheronb
Let me have info and see what I can do for you.
A pleasure

Steve

[sheronb]

Hello Steve.

Thank you very much for your help. I am hoping to find info on Vincenza Tuzi 1876 -05/05/1903 I think the date of death is correct it's from the State de Civilie, her parents were Amadio Tuzi and Maria Domenica Lombardozzi. From Sora, Frosinone, unmarried as far as I know. Family rumour is that she died in a fire. Also if possible her mother, Maria Domenica Lombardozzi she died on 29/09/1881, after that husband and son, my g,grandfather came to England.

Thank you very much again.

[q98]

Hi steve62
Seeing my Scots/Irish lineage back to 1775, my wife has become interested in her Italian heritage. We would be most grateful for any additional information relating to her grandparents below:

Paternal:
Martino VITALI (b. 8 Dec 1881, Mu, Edolo, Brescia d. 24 Aug 1942, Fremantle, WA)
married circa 1912, possibly Mu, Edolo
Domenica .......... (maiden name btb also VITALI) (b. Unknown d. Unknown)
Issue: One child, Giovanni (b. 2 Apr 1913, Mu, Edolo d. 20 Sep 1973, Fremantle, WA). Domenica did not emigrate with Martino to Australia, although Giovanni did so as an adult.

Maternal:
Emilio DE (DI?) LUCA (b. Unknown d. Fremantle, WA)
married < 1922, possibly Montenerodomo, Chieti
Maria NERO (NERA?) (b. Unknown d. Fremantle, WA)
Issue: Vincenzo b. circa 1922, Consiglia b. 1923, Lucia b. circa 1927, all born Montenorodomo.

Kindest regards and many thanks in advance for your efforts on our behalf.

q98
Fremantle
WA

[steve62]

sheronb  and q98,

TURZI, Vincenza  -  Requesting BC and we will see what annotations are on that
LOMBARDOZZI, Maria Domenica - Requesting DC and that will show the Birth date and any annotations.

VITALI, Martino - Will request the BC and as above will see what annotations there are.

A little patience my friends as sometimes they are slow here in repying, but have dated marked all so I can follow up reminders.

My pleasure

Steve