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Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« on: Friday 28 November 14 20:34 GMT (UK) »
It started with this marriage record,

Name:   Elizabeth Pitchfork
Gender:   Female
Birth Date:   abt 1793
Age:   18
Spouse's Name:   John Hatfield
Spouse's Age:   23
Marriage Date:   1 Jan 1811
Marriage Place:   Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England


This puts her birth date as 1793, the two census records i have her in show her as 1790 and being born in Warsop, Nottinghamshire.

Also to back this up, her burial/death records


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When looking for this lady in Warsop, i am not having much luck and was wondering if anyone could help me out on this one.

There seems to be a Thomas and Mary Pitchfork baptising children around this period of time in Warsop, but then i found this...

329   SC/8/5/1451   Item   Marriage bond and allegation of Thomas Pitchfork of Warsop, blacksmith, widower, aged 21 and upwards, and Mary Chauntry of Halam, aged 17, daughter of Richard Chauntry of Halam, farmer   17 Feb 1794

So i am hoping that Elizabeth was a child from Thomas' first marriage however i can't seem to spot this first marriage.
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley

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Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 November 14 21:11 GMT (UK) »
Baptism:
1790 02 07      Elizabeth   father Thomas   PITCHFORK   mother Anne          abode MW (I think this might mean Market Warsop)       

Now there are a lot of other Pitchfork births in Warsop between 1788 and 1811, all with father Thomas, al with abode MW, but all others with mother Mary which makes me wonder if someone got a name wrong in Elizabeth's baptism.

The dates of baptisms would fit with the possibility of 2 marriages:
1787 03 26   Thomas   PITCHFORK   Mary   PARSONS   MANSFIELD St Peter and St Paul

then
1794 02 18   Thomas   PITCHFORK   Mary   CHAUNTRY   HALAM St Michael

(the first of the Thomas and Mary Pitchfork children after this date was Thomas Chantrey Pitchfork)

There are no marriages anywhere in the county between a Thomas Pitchfork and an Ann (doesn't mean it didn't happen but does mean I can't help you with that!)
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 November 14 21:14 GMT (UK) »
Burials in Warsop:

1831 03 09   Mary   PITCHFORK   54   M.W.   Warsop   wife of Thomas   
1835 02 08   Thomas   PITCHFORK   71   M.W.   Warsop      




Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 November 14 21:20 GMT (UK) »
So to clarify:

First Pitchfork baptism in Warsop to Thomas + Mary = Mary b 1788
then Elizabeth -- to Thomas and Ann 1790

then a gap - can't see any Pitchfork burials anywhere in this gap

Thomas remarries Mary Chantrey in 1794 (as per your findings)

next child, Thomas Chantrey Pitchfork, b 1795, followed by a further 9 baptisms up to 1814. Thomas listed as blacksmith on the last.

Burial details would suggest that Mary Chantrey was b 1777 so old enough to stat having children iin 1795 (age 18) but rather young to be Elizabeth's mother!
Thomas yob 1764
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)


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Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 November 14 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Baptism WARSOP St Peter and St Paul

1763 11 16   Thomas        father Peter   PITCHFORK   mother Mary         abode Market Warsop     (3 older siblings)   

Marriage   WARSOP St Peter and St Paul
1756 01 26   Peter   PITCHFORK   Mary   HEES   

Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 November 14 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for your replies. Would this then point towards Ann being an incorrect entry for being Elizabeths mother, and really it was Mary Parsons...possible Mary Ann Parsons for instance?

Is there a burial for the first Mary before he marries the second Mary?
Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley

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Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 28 November 14 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Hello both.... :)

Just to confirm Annie's find - from Phillimore's parish register index:

Marriage at Mansfield - 26th March 1787
Thomas Pitchfork, parish of Warsop & Mary Parsons

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Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 28 November 14 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately I can't see any appropriate burial for a first wife for Thomas. It would be much easier if I could!

The 1787 marriage is the only one on the discs for any Thomas Pitchfork to anyone in the whole county so I think there are 2 possibilities:

1. This is the correct marriage and is Elizabeth's mother with the baptism record being (transcribed?) incorrect(ly)
or
2. Thomas married an Ann, but either this is illegible on the records or otherwise not on my version of the CDs, or they married outside the county.

Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 28 November 14 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both. It's definitely a good one, we would have to find a burial for a Mary, and an Anne Pitchfork before he marries the second Mary in 1794 for the three wife scenario to be correct, so it is pointing to the first at the moment.

Would she be buried where she grew up possibly, is that not usually the tradition?

Sheffield/Yeadon/Guiseley - Brayshaw
Baslow - Wild(e)
London - Overall
Folkestone - Butcher
Little Steeping / Willoughby - Briggs and Ancient
Candlesby - Hewison and Rutter
Badsworth/Upton/South Kirkby - Thorp(e)
East Markham - Wilmot(t)
Middleton Tyas/South Cowton - Martin
Newton Upon Ouse - Goodbarn
Darley Dale - Hatfield
Wentworth/Tankersley - Allott and Trippett
Chedworth - Wilson and Tuffley