HELP! Thomas Beacock's Parents!

[lizdb]

It can be a mistake to make assumptions and try and move on too quickly, all to easy to end up following the wrong line!
Have you got the birth cert for Frederick bn 1875? If not that is where to start. That will confirm his mums maiden name. Then look for his parents marriage. Also look for the family on censuses.

As I said there are a few Thomas Beacocks born around that time give or take a few years, sodangerous to assume one is the right one without any evidence.

It is a case of starting with what you know for sure, and work back one step at a time, confirmong each step as you go from as many different angles as you can.

[Anthony Beacock]

I have followed census information of Frederick Beacock. It shows how he grows up in the household, with the same siblings on each one. Thomas Beacock is the head of house on each with Margaret as the wife. It then shows how Frederick becomes the head of house at a new address, after leaving home, with his wife Florence, who I know is definitely right as I have had confirmation from family, and his children. One of which is Frederick Walter Beacock, who I know is my great grandfather. I have a picture of him.

[KGarrad]

1871 census
Class: RG10; Piece: 4789; Folio: 111; Page: 22
4 Primrose Court, Kingston Upon Hull

Beacock, Thomas  Head  M  26  Butcher  b Melton Ross, Lincolnshire
Beacock, Margaret  Wife  F  20  b Hull
Beacock, Thomas  Son  M  2  b Hull
Beacock, Sarah  Daughter  F  4 months

So, this looks like him in 1861:
Class: RG 9; Piece: 2400; Folio: 57; Page: 11
Winteringham, Lincolnshire

Handson, Gilbert B  Head  M  40   Butcher  b Manby, Lincolnshire
Handson, Sarah  Wife  F  45  b Turgmore, Lincs
Beacock, Thomas  Son-in-Law  M  19  Butcher  b Barnetby, Lincs
(a stepson sometimes used to be referred to as son-in-law!)
Handson, Gilbert Burton  Son  M  9  Scholar  b Winteringham
Handson, John H  Son  M  8  Scholar  b Winteringham
Handson, George W  Son  M  7  Scholar  b Winteringham
Handson, Sarah F  Daughter  F  4  Scholar  b Winteringham
Winship, Sarah F  Niece  F  21  Visitor  b Barton, Lincs
Winship, Henrietta  Niece  F  12  Scholar  b Barton
+ servant

[KGarrad]

Probable marriage for Sarah & Gilbert:

June qtr 1851
Glandford Brigg district     vol 14, page 638

Handson, Gilbert
+ and on the same page +
Gilliatt, Sarah


Finally, 1851 census:
Class: HO107; Piece: 2117; Folio: 46; Page: 22
Winterton, Lincolnshire

Gillyatt, Sarah  Head  Widow  F  33  Annuitant  b Messingham
Beacock, Thomas  Son  M  10  Scholar  b Barnetby le Wold

[Goughy]

Marriage 1845 Mar Qtr Glandford Brigg District Sarah Beacock and John Gilliat on same page

1841 Census HO107 Piece 627 Folio 5 Page 12
Barnetby Le Wold, Lincolnshire

John Beacock b 1776
Sarah b 1786
Sarah 1816
Diana 1828
Thomas b 1841

All born Lincolnshire

Thomas looks to be illegitimate son of Sarah

[chempat]

This is from familysearch:

 John Gilliatt
Spouse   Sarah Beacock   Marriage  04 Mar 1845
Winterton, Lincoln, England
Father   John Gilliatt  Spouse's Father    John Beacock
Marital Status:    Widowed

https://familysearch.org/search

[chempat]

If that is Thomas in 1841 census, then he cannot be the 1843 birth.

[pamthomas]

In fairness, although Thomas is headlined in the other thread, the query is about his wife.
Though it is better to keep queries involving the same person in the same thread as sometimes the information overlaps.

Other thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=706510.0

And from the other thread

www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk and www.freebmd have the marriage to Margaret Gibson in 1868

It was a civil marriage so cannot be looked up in parish records

The marriage certificate will hopefully give you Thomas' father's name and occupation.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Though my feeling is that he is probably illegitimate.

There seems to be only one Thomas Beacock born 1843 +/- 2 years in the whole of England and Wales. (Well, indexed as Beacock.  )

In 1871 Thomas is a butcher.

In 1861 Thomas is a butcher, listed as son-in-law to Gilbert Handson. RG9/2400 folio 57 page 11
Gilbert Handson married Sarah Gilliatt June quarter 1851, Glanford Brigg registration district.

In 1851 Thomas Beacock, son, aged 10, is living in Winterton with Sarah Gillyatt, widow. HO107/2117 folio 46 page 22
Sarah Beacock married John Gilliatt 4 March 1845 in Winterton.
http://mi.lincolnshiremarriages.org.uk/ Glanford Brigg spreadsheet.

1841 census HO107/627/6 folio 5 page 12 Barnetby le Wold.
Sarah Beacock, aged 25, presumably her father John (which would fit with her 1845 marriage), and a Thomas, aged 3 months.

[Anthony Beacock]

So Thomas is a illegitimate child meaning that the family tree goes

John Beacock and Sarah

Sarah Beacock and father of Thomas (out of wedlock)

And then Thomas from those two?