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Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« on: Wednesday 03 December 14 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I am trying to find the baptism of my 6x Great Grandmother Mary Small.

She married John Harlow 5th May 1760 at Chislet. She was buried there 5th Oct 1801 age 67.

There are two Mary Small baptisms in Ash 1734 :
Mary Small 9th Mar 1734 dau of Samuel & Mary.
Mary Small 4th Aug 1734 dau of Joseph & Mary.

I am not sure which one is my Mary. Can anyone confirm which one married John Harlow.

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Re: Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 18:40 GMT (UK) »
hello there are two showing on FindMyPast sorry I do not have access
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Re: Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 20:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello rayb

Thanks for searching Find My Past. They are probably the two Ash baptisms.

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Re: Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 22:30 GMT (UK) »
hello have you seen the chislet burial record it may say wife of ? there is a site www.wantsumchurches.orgchisletbaptisms the site says email for info
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Re: Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Yes i have a copy of Mary's burial.

It states that she was Mary Harlow a widow age 67. Husband John Harlow was buried 8th Jan 1801 at Chislet so it should be the correct burial for Mary.

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Re: Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 22:50 GMT (UK) »
hello family search genealogies gives parents samuel and mary nash spouse john harlow children mary Margaret Elizabeth john William pleasant and james
Mormon church may have copy of original records
also batch nos of the church
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Re: Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the info. The children were all baptised at Chislet. I have copies of those.

I am not sure how the tree on Family Search came to the conclusion that Samuel & Mary were the parents of my Mary when there was another Mary Small baptised in Ash 1734 who could also be John Harlow's wife. Perhaps the person who entered the info on that tree did not know about the other Mary Small 1734 baptism ?

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Re: Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 23:12 GMT (UK) »
Ravelin, out of interest, in the original image of John HARLOW and Mary SMALL's marriage on FindMyPast, there is a marriage above it. One of the witnesses for yours was John FORD and above is the marriage of John FORD to Mary HARLOW, in which John HARLOW was a witness ;)

I'd be disinclined to pay any attention to Family Search family trees, as with any other family tree site. They can be made up of total rubbish.

As for the two Ash Mary's, there is a suspicious burial in 1741 in Ash for a Mary Small... makes one wonder, but no indication which child if either.

The christenings themselves give no other info. My next thought would be to check out other children of the couples to see if any sibling names lend themselves to Mary Small's children.

Samuel and Mary nee NASH (m. 1732):

James 1733
(Mary 1734)
Elizabeth 1736
Samuel 1738
Sarah 1741

Joseph and Mary nee WOODRUFF (m. 1727):

Daniel 1729
Joseph 1731
(Mary 1734)
John 1738
Sarah 1740

Do any of these names appear in John and Mary's children?

I wouldn't be surprised if Joseph and Samuel were brothers though.

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Re: Mary Small : Baptism 1734 Ash next Sandwich
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Hello Ayashi. Thanks for your help.

Yes i can see the marriage above John & Mary's in my copy of their marriage. Yes John was a witness also to the other marriage. Good find.

I guess that Mary Small burial 1741 could also be one of the two spouses of Samuel & Joseph also.

The children of John & Mary were named in order : Mary, Margaret, Richard, Elizabeth, John, Mary, William, Pleasant & James. The family of Samuel & Mary fit the names better but they are quite common names though.

Yes i suspect that Joseph & Samuel were brothers or cousins.

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