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Walter Bishop Waterford and Tramore
« on: Tuesday 09 December 14 00:52 GMT (UK) »
I  am researching the family of Walter Bishop baker & confectioner of Waterford and Tramore. I have found most of his residences but one that is alluding me is inn the 1911 it is a seven roomed house Killoteran. Does anyone have any ideas of where it is and what it was.



Searching Mcnulty, Gallagher, O'Donnell. Achill Island.
and Hayden, Bishop,  Hamilton and Grainger Tramore and Waterford.
Hayden and Power Greatisland. Wexford.
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Re: Walter Bishop Waterford and Tramore
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 06:27 GMT (UK) »

I  am researching the family of Walter Bishop baker & confectioner of Waterford and Tramore. I have found most of his residences but one that is alluding me is inn the 1911 it is a seven roomed house Killoteran. Does anyone have any ideas of where it is and what it was.


Where did you get that information?  The 1911 census House and Building Return describes it as a confectioner's shop with "13 or more rooms":

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003960383/

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Re: Walter Bishop Waterford and Tramore
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 08:38 GMT (UK) »
I  am researching the family of Walter Bishop baker & confectioner of Waterford and Tramore. I have found most of his residences but one that is alluding me is inn the 1911 it is a seven roomed house Killoteran. Does anyone have any ideas of where it is and what it was.

The reference gaffy posted is to Walter Bishop's residence. Is it this house on Strand Road, Tramore, that you are asking about of some other house that Walter owned? If the latter, please post a link to census entry so that we can have a look outselves.
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Re: Walter Bishop Waterford and Tramore
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Re: Walter Bishop Waterford and Tramore
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 14:50 GMT (UK) »

http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/search.jsp?type=record&county=WA&regno=22900901
Link for Killoteran House
Could this be it?


I can't see a Bishop connection (online yet) to Killoteran House, that's not to say there isn't.  Anyhow, here are a couple of previous Rootschat threads with a related mention to this man:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=646715.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=707276.msg5503509#msg5503509

To ngtp, the Waterford Directory of 1894 shows a portfolio of property for Walter Bishop:

99 Meagher's Quay: W. Bishop, confectioner
111 Meagher's Quay: W. Bishop, confectioner
48, 49 Michael Street: W. Bishop, confectioner
7 Barron Strand Street (Great): W. Bishop, confectioner

Transcribed records online from Thoms 1909/10 show something similar. 

Like others here, I'm looking a bit more information... for example, was your 1911 reference:

- to the residence of Walter Bishop & family on Strand Road, Tramore? in the 1911 Ireland census;

or

- to some other "seven roomed house Killoteran", ie. asking about another property owned by Walter Bishop (eg. in that townland or a house so named)

ngtp, hoping you will pick this up and clarify since you've been active today since your OP  :)

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Re: Walter Bishop Waterford and Tramore
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 December 14 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Search here Killoteran yields Edward Roberts ,Killoteran (townland ?) 1840
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search-the-archives/
Edward Roberts leasing land at Killoteran on Griffiths Valuation maybe some one could pinpoint it on map.
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

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Re: Walter Bishop Waterford and Tramore
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 December 14 03:32 GMT (UK) »
Walter Bishop had a few properties, as I have said, I am researching his family.  In the 1901 he is resident with his wife Bridget nee Power in Michael Street Waterford.

His children are registered in  in house 11 Butlerstown North (Kïlloteran, Waterford).

Bishop   Walter   -   -   Head of Family   -
Bishop   Margaret   10   Female   Daughter   Roman Catholic
Bishop   Ellen   7   Female   Daughter   Roman Catholic
Bishop   Elizabeth   6   Female   Daughter   Roman Catholic
Bishop   Michael   2   Male   Son   Roman Catholic.
There are three servants. Walter is his oldest son.
Walter Bishop is named as the land owner. In form B1 also in this form it states in column for number of rooms 4 which is the number for 7, 8 or 9 rooms.  number of winds to the front 9 class of house 1
 Walters first wife was Mary Murphy born 1848 died 1889. That is all I have  for the 1901 census.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/K_lloteran/Butlerstown_North/1763594/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001235688/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Waterford_Urban_No__2/Michael_Street/1761470/



Searching Mcnulty, Gallagher, O'Donnell. Achill Island.
and Hayden, Bishop,  Hamilton and Grainger Tramore and Waterford.
Hayden and Power Greatisland. Wexford.
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Re: Walter Bishop Waterford and Tramore
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 December 14 07:11 GMT (UK) »
Which house exactly is the one you are trying to get information about?

I  am researching the family of Walter Bishop baker & confectioner of Waterford and Tramore. I have found most of his residences but one that is alluding me is inn the 1911 it is a seven roomed house Killoteran. Does anyone have any ideas of where it is and what it was.

Do you mean that you cannot locate the above house in the 1911 census?

There are only 8 listings in Killoteran townland in 1911- 7 private dwellings and 1 church-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003503538/

Or is 'seven roomed house Killoteran' somewhere else?
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