Richard Glyn(ne) Lloyd Kent

[yffor]

Thanks Mabel Bagshawe,

Whilst I agree that Richard Alfred's birth County on the 1901 Census does say Carmarthen, the village is Llannor (Caernarvonshire). Because the other Census returns confirms his birth County as Carnarvon I have assumed that the 1901 entry is a transcription error.

[JJen]

Do you have Richard Alfred Lloyd's marriage cert to Mary Margaret Thomson in 1881?

JJ

[yffor]

Hi JJ,

Yes I have the marriage certificate and baptism for the three children Richard Glyn, Gwendoline and Blodwen.

Thanks

[JJen]

Found the details of the marriage -

Richard Alfred Lloyd, Private Detective
Spouse - Mary Margaret Thomson
26 Nov 1881, St Marylebone, Westminster
Father's name - Richard Adam Lloyd (dec) Clerk in Holy Orders
Spuse father - Donald Thomson (dec)

The name of Richard's father should hopefully help 

JJ

[yffor]

Hi JJ,

Unfortunately not. Cannot find any mention of him. That is my problem. I am trying to confirm the Carnarvonshire connection to Richard Alfred Lloyd. I think he changed his name prior to the 1881 Census. If that is the case, his father's name is incorrect and it will be very difficult to identify him.

That is why I am trying to find living descendents. He is both an elusive and colourful character.

yffor.com

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I agree there maybe a change of name as I can't see a birth under that name. Also the item I linked to with his history mentions moving to caernarfon then "After coming to Carnarvon, Lloyd's mother was married to Mr John Jones, nailer, Pool-street."  No mention of a father in the article, and if he'd been a clerk in holy orders I'm sure that would have merited a mention. i suspect mother was not married.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Ok - workign backwards. Pool St, Caernarfon 1881. JOneses all born the same place

John Jones    51 - nailer b Llanbeblig, widower
Margaret Jones    24 - daughter, widow
John Jones    20 - son, butcher
C. Ann Jones    19 - daughter
Thomas Owen    14 - visitor
William Hope    21 - lodger
Mary Hope    9 - lodgr

Aha! 1871, Pool St

John Jones    42 - nailer manufacterer
Catharine Jones    37 - wife b Llangybi
Mary J Jones     15 - daughter, milliner
John P Jones    11 
Anna Jones    9
Robert A Lloyd    21  <<<<  lodger, b Llanor, militiaman

 RG10, 5721, 51, 11

[yffor]

Thank you Mabel Bagshawe,

I am trying to find the mother before she was widowed.

yffor.com

[JJen]

Ok - workign backwards. Pool St, Caernarfon 1881. JOneses all born the same place

John Jones    51 - nailer b Llanbeblig, widower
Margaret Jones    24 - daughter, widow
John Jones    20 - son, butcher
C. Ann Jones    19 - daughter
Thomas Owen    14 - visitor
William Hope    21 - lodger
Mary Hope    9 - lodgr

Aha! 1871, Pool St

John Jones    42 - nailer manufacterer
Catharine Jones    37 - wife b Llangybi
Mary J Jones     15 - daughter, milliner
John P Jones    11 
Anna Jones    9
Robert A Lloyd    21  <<<<  lodger, b Llanor, militiaman

 RG10, 5721, 51, 11

Good find Mabel 

JJ