Kilwaren in Ayrshire?

[aghadowey]

May have found some information which point to an entirely different direction in searching for the Heenan family in Scotland but before I go any further or post anything, jmara, I have a few questions...

Is your Thomas Heenan definitely the one who married Elizabeth/Lizzie Dailly in 1892 in Illinois?
Where did you get birth details/names of parents from?
Any idea who told your father about Kilwaren in Ayrshire?

[jmara]

Yes! My great-grandmother is "Lizzie Heenan" nee: Elizabeth Daly/Dailly/Daley born in Scotland in October 1866-68. I know she had younger sister named Annie Daly who married a Matthew Lints,  in the US. Matthew was born in Scotland as well.

To answer your question, the birth details about Thomas, to include the information on Kilwarren was written down by my father 40 years ago. Thomas Heenan died in 1916 and Lizzie in 1942, so he did not get it directly from the source(s). I am not sure who it came from but my guess is that it was his sister. All are deceased now.

Is the new direction you mentioned that of Peter and Helen as parents with a dob for Thomas of 1860-61? Ancestry.com just opened UK records for free the next 2 days and I looked again today. I also looked at his death certificate and saw his parents were listed as "Peter" and "L. Pitcairn." I'm not sure how, but my previous queries along that line came up empty. With this new access, (and the fresh eyes of this group) I saw a Thomas born of Peter and "Helen"  "Hannan" born in Kilbirnie, Ayrshire in 1860. I know that in the US census' the Heenan's were translated as "Hannan" and perhaps "Helen" became "Ellen". Is that what you found?

Thank You Again!

[MonicaL]

Thomas naturalization application shows in 1888, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20824-132993-6?cc=1838804  No personal details there.

Were there any parent details on Thomas' marriage in 1892? Just wondering why we are looking at possible parents John and Margaret (Gaitens).

His death cert, which again you likely have, shows:

Thomas Hennan, b.  1 Sep 1861, Scotland. D. 5 Aug 1916, in Joliet, Illinois aged 55. A janitor by occupation. Parents Peter Hennan and L. Pitcarn both born in Scotland.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3DW-PHH

His 1900 census entry (you very likely have this) shows his birth as being in Aug 1862. Migration in 1881.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Parents Peter Hennan and L. Pitcarn both born in Scotland.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3DW-PHH

I think the entry you mentioned that you have found looks promising 

Thomas Heaney b. 8 Aug 1860 in KILBIRNIE,AYR,SCOTLAND
Father Peter Heaney and mother Helen Mccairn
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYB2-HVV

Pitcairn and McCairn is a good link I think  You also have the August month reference, although birth year seems variable.

Monica

[aghadowey]

Sorry I didn't get a chance to answer sooner but finally had time to follow up on possible leads although more still neds to be checked. Yes, the death certificate (wonder who informant was) gives different parents and birthdate than the Thomas Heenan whose parents were John Heenan & Margaret Gaetens.

So, after finding the birth for Thomas Heaney I found the family in the 1861 census- where I certainly didn't expect to see them!

Brickrow, Kilsyth, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Peter Hannan, 35, Rutheyland [Rutherglen?] Lanark., ir[on?] miner
Helen Hannan, 34, Rutheyland Lanark.
Helen Hannan, 14, Cambuslang Lanark.
Catherin Hannan, 12, Ruthuglea[?] Lanark.
Mary Hannan, 5, Luggar [Lugar] Ayrshire
Peter Hannan, 3, Kilbirnie Ayrshire
Thomas Hannan, 7 mo., Kilbirnie Ayrshire

think there was also a son William (Hainney, Hainey) but have some more searching to do...

[aghadowey]

[1861] Brickrow, Kilsyth, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Peter Hannan, 35, Rutheyland [Rutherglen?] Lanark., ir[on?] miner
Helen Hannan, 34, Rutheyland Lanark.
...
Peter Hannan, 3, Kilbirnie Ayrshire
Thomas Hannan, 7 mo., Kilbirnie Ayrshire

1900 Census- Mineral, Cherokee, Kansas
Peter Hanan, Apr.1858, Scotland, to US 1881, coal miner
wife Annie Hanan, Apr.1861, Ireland, m. 13 years
son Thomas Hanan, Aug.1888, Illinois
dau. Ellen Hanan, Dec.1889, New Jersey
dau. Ann J. Hanan, Nov.1891, Alabama
dau. Mary Hanan, Nov.1893, Illinois
son Peter Hanan, Jan.1896, Illinois

1910 Census- Scammon, Cherokee, Kansas
Peter Heannan, 52, Scotland, to US 1881, miner- coal mine
wife Anna Heannan, 45, Ireland, m.23yrs, 9 children/8 living
son Thomas Heannan, 21, Illinois, miner- coal mine
dau. Nellie Heannan, 20, New Jersey, servant- kitchen girl
dau. Anna Heannan, 18, Alabama
dau. Mary Heannan, 16, Illinois
son  Pete Heannan, 14, Illinois
son Patrick Heannan, 9, Kansas
dau. Hannah Heannan, 6, Kansas
dau. Bridget Heannan, 3, Kansas

[aghadowey]

Births-

Peter Haney, 6 Apr.1858 Auchinleck, Ayr. , parents- Peter Haney & Ellen Mccarne
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYYG-2HF

William Hainney, 26 Apr.1863, Muirkirk, Ayr., parents- Patrick Hainney & Helen Mccairn
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYBL-1JF
Note: in Scotland Patrick & Peter are often used for same person

William Hainey, 16 Apr.1865, Sorn, Ayr., parents- Patrick Hainey & Helen Mccairn
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYYQ-9LJ

[jmara]

Oh, My! I have been searching this family for several months and in the course of few hours you all came up with what may be all the missing pieces! When I have run searches for Heenan they did not show several of the last names you all found. Should I be using "soundex" or another filter? I am amazed what you all found. Is the writing of Heenan as Heaney, Hainy or Heiny commonplace enough to assume it likely could be "my people" if the other facts fit? I looked up "Brickrow" and found a website on Scottish miners in the 1800s that I imagine you all are familiar with( http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/index.html) but I found chocked full of info. I followed the Kansas/North Dakota Heenans and learned they were the wrong branch, but  I SO look forward to following up on all these leads! Thank You all so much!!!

[aghadowey]

There are lots of leads to check out yet but not sure if the Kansas ones can be ruled out yet. Have a houseful of people in for Boxing Day but will post more when I get a chance.