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Fellman girls
« on: Sunday 28 December 14 10:40 GMT (UK) »
 My ggfather I have finally discovered that my Ggfather 's father, stepmother and 7 siblings emigrated to USA in around 1905 I wonder what became of them .did they stay in Brooklyn ..can anyone access their marriages + deaths please ;
The  FELLMAN/FELDMAN family left Jakobstadt in  Latvia then  Russiain in 1891
spent several years in Prestwich Manchester UK ,
 1n 1901 most of the family were in Birkenhead;Cheshire GB .
Head of family was Leizer-mendel/Lazurus /Samuel
his 2nd wife was called sheina/senna/Jane
girls names were mera/mary born or baptised 31/12/1880
bassa/bessie  1882
  sora/sarah/celia may1885
khaya/Tilly /matilda march 1891 in jakobstadt
golda/gertie /gertrude /gertz born in prestwich 1893
Esther /lestraube  b prestwich 1897    * Estelle ?

they were with brother David (Born nov 1886jRussia) a 14yrold watchmaker in 1901 in birkenhead,Liverpool

It looks like Bessie came to Usa in nov 1904 to stay with her brother "Barnet " Feldman of 487myrtle av Brooklyn
In march 1905 Samuel Feldman with wife +Sarah ,Tilly, Gerty, + Esther also to stay with Barnet 

I looked up Barnet 's crossing and found him  March 30th 1904 to stay with sister M ....surname illegible who'd paid his passage
His age looks like 32 on written page but is transcribed as 22 ,
My ggrandfather  George Jacob Fellman born Russia 'died in Wales 1924 aged 52  Welsh hospital documents as being the 2nd of 12 siblings only 2 being dead (i found their deaths as infants)
Rebecca b 1870 married Elias Bloch in prestwhich 1897 and they lived rest of their lives in Scotland
I have no other records with a Barnet could it be David's other name .?
 In 1910 I'm told  Samuel aged 55+ Jeannie  42  are with Bessie,Celia Gertrude Matilda +Esther in Brooklyn ward the ages seem to be wrong for the older girls Bessie should be 31, and Celia(sarah)25. I don't have access to US records so will be grateful for any help
 
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Re: Feldman girls
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 December 14 11:18 GMT (UK) »
This seems to be the family in 1910 which you refer to :-

Brooklyn Ward 21, Kings, New York

Samuel Fellman  55 Born Russia. First married at 28 years. Immigrated 1905. PA. Dealer. Wines.
Jennie Fellman  42 Born Russia. First married at 28 years. had 6 children and 3 survive  ???
Bessie Fellman  23 Born Russia. Imm 1905. Operator. Shirtwaist.
Celia Fellman  21 Born Russia. Imm 1905. Operator. Shirtwaist.
Matilda Fellman  16 Born Eng. Imm 1905. Saleslady Dept Store.
Gertrude Fellman  15 Born Eng. Imm 1905. Saleslady Dept store.
Lestrbe (should be Estella) Fellman  11 Born Eng. Imm 1905.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5HM-C5K

There are census and many other records on family search which may help your search.

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Re: Feldman girls
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 December 14 11:29 GMT (UK) »
There was a marriage of Celia Fellman - 16 June 1912 - Kings NY. Cert No :- 5932

http://italiangen.org/records-search/brides.php

Groom was George J Devine -

George J Devine -  Jun 16 1912  - 5932 -  Kings L150 1234766

 

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Re: Feldman girls
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 December 14 11:35 GMT (UK) »
There are 2 marriages listed for a Bessie Fellaman in Kings - which are worth investigating further.

Bessie A Fellman - 10 Nov 1910 - Kings - Cert 10983
Irving L Bloch -  Nov 10 1910  - Kings - 10983 - B420 961653

Perhaps the name should be Fullerman and not Fellman - they seem to show on the 1920 with Fullerman in-laws  ???

and

Bessie Fellman - 26 Jan 1913 - Kings - Cert 961 -
Ely Ness - Jan 26 -  1913 -  961 -  Kings

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Re: Feldman girls
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 December 14 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Sandra
 I will have a look at that site . I might be able to look at USA census from my library without paying each time .
 The printed form you sent has some mistakes ..with Samuel's  + Bessie's age  way out Celie should be older too if she is  dressmaker Sarah aged17 from passenger records
 but his wife's + younger children are  nearer the mark. it's lovely nice to see their trades too.
their youngest daughter is "Esther" at birth ,school records + on British census 1901 
 

 
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 December 14 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Possibility for Estella Fellman - Tupper Lake, Franklin, New York 1920 with a sister  ???

Mose Ginsberg  40 Born Russia
May Ginsberg  38 Born England 1882.
Agusta Ginsberg  13 Born NY.
Muriel Ginsberg  10 Born NY.
Estelle Fellman  21 Born England 1899. Immigrated 1905. Sister.

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Re: Feldman girls
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 December 14 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Moses Ginsberg married May Fellman - 15 Sept 1905 - Kings - 7273 -

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Re: Feldman girls
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 December 14 11:55 GMT (UK) »
I like both the Bessie possibilities ; the first because elder sister Rebecca married Benjamin Bloch so could well be a family connection
and the 2nd because she has the Fellman spelling which had been consistent since the 1850's from Latvia to Manchester in the 1890's and Liverpool early 1900's
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Re: Feldman girls
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 December 14 12:04 GMT (UK) »
this would have meant that Mary/May was not married when she came to USA 
I can't read what is written on her brother's passage arrival in march 1904
.I assumed it was her married name

if it's the same family Estelle has carried on the family tradition of altering their first names when they change town or country . the dates fit

Mary was actually born in Russia but her emigration would have stated from GB
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