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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 January 15 21:53 GMT (UK) »
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m (1) 8/81851 at Christ Church, Bristol, Glos
Rebecca Ellen Gutteridge (54)
Exeter, Devon OR Camarthen, Wales (@1831 - 14/1/1885) Australia
(d in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia)
(bur at Ballarat Cemetery, Victoria)
(dau of Joseph & Susan Snow)

Death
HAINES Rebecca Ellen
Father Joseph GUTHRIDGE   Mother Susan SNOW
At Ballarat East  54 years  1885  Reg#259

Interred at Ballarat New Cemetery
HAINES Rebecca Ellen  54 years  15 Jan 1885  Wills Street, Ballarat  Ind A 6.17
and at the same location
HAINES Ernest George  3 years  1 Sep 1882  Lyons Street, Ballarat   Ind A 6.17
HAINES Frederick Paul  3 years  5 Jun 1885  Wills Street, Ballarat   Ind A 6.17

Deaths
HAINES Ernest George
Father Frederick George  Mother Alice BOOTH
At Ballarat 3 years  1882  Reg#7712

HAINES Frederick  Paul
Father Frederick  George  Mother Alice BOOTH
At Ballarat East  3 years  1885  Reg#4127

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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 January 15 01:27 GMT (UK) »
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he m (2) ? 1887 in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
Susannah Carman (?)
(? - ?)
(dau of ?
(children ?)

Marriage
HAINES George Born Sussex
CARMAN Susannah  Born London
1887  Reg#1578

Death
HAINES  Susannah
Father William HEWSTONE  Mother Sarah STUDD
At Bunningyong  79 years  1909  Reg#698

On the 1851 living with a widowed father William, 50 years, toy maker, is a Susan HEWSTONE 22 years born St Lukes, Middlesex.

Marriage in Victoria
CARMAN Simon
HEWSTONE Susannah
1857  Reg#1382

HAINES Susannah  80 years
Death 4 Jan 1909 [Possibly date of burial]
Source Buninyong cemetery headstones and registers 23/2/1845 - 30/9/1981.
Author/compiler Genealogical Society of Victoria, Ballarat Group.
Comment  Ref type: b [burial from register?]

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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 January 15 03:21 GMT (UK) »
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Frederick George Haines (71)
Emigrated to Australia during 1860s
?
Exeter (bap 22/8/1853 - 7/3/1925) ?
m 1874 Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
Alice Booth (?)
(? - ?)
(dau of

Marriage
HAINES Frederick George Born Exeter
BOOTH Alice Born Ballarat
1874  Reg#4590

Births
HAINES  Edith
Father Frederick  Mother Alice BOOTH
At Ballarat  1877  Reg#515

HAINES Ernest George
Father Frederick George  Mother Alice BOOTH
At Ballarat  1879  Reg#13626

HAINES Rebecca Alice
Father Frederick George  Mother Alice BOOTH
At Ballarat  1884  Reg#22198

HAINES Lawrence George Epthorp
Father Frederick George  Mother Alice BOOTH
At Ballarat  1886  Reg#23759

HAINES Bertha Louisa
Father Frederick George  Mother Alice BOOTH
At Ballarat East  1888  Reg#17543

HAINES Frederick  39 years  Married  Born Sussex   Labourer
Hospital record
14 May 1888
Place - Victoria Street
How long in colony  18 years  Religion Church of England
Source Ballarat Base Hospital, Victoria:admissions register 1856-1913.
Name of Recommender or remarks - Resident Surgeon

Birth
BOOTH Alice
Father William  Mother Mary Ann EPTHORP
At Ballarat  1856  Reg#12513

Possible death for Alice in NSW
18648/1921
HAINES Alice
Father William  Mother Mary A
District St Leonards

and Frederick George....there are errors on the indexes.

4211/1925     
HAINES Frederick C      
Father George  Mother GUTTERIDGE
District West Maitland

Burial record for Frederick George HAINES
http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=1375712

and their son

3136/1963     
HAINES Lawrence George E
Father Frederick Paul  Mother Alice
District Ashfield

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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 04 January 15 04:55 GMT (UK) »
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Ellen Haines (?)
Emigrated to Australia during 1860s
Portsmouth, Hants (1855 - ?)
Domestic Servant in 1874
m 30/12/1874 at Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
John Edward Williamson (48/49)
Miner then Gardener
Geelong, Australia (1845 - 9/2/1894) Lexton, Australia
(d from pneumonia)
(bur 11/2/1894 Lexton Cemetery, Victoria, Australia)
(son of George & Frances ?)
(7 children all d young)

Not all the children died young.

No WILLIAMSON headstones in the Lexton Cemetery.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausvsac/Lexton.htm

Marriage
HAINES Ellen  Born Portsmouth
WILLIAMSON John Edward Born Geelong
1874   Reg#3687

Birth
WILLIAMSON Rebecca Jane  1875 At Gordon  Reg#23226
Death
WILLIAMSON Rebecca Jane  1878   2 years  Born Gordon  Reg#2260

Birth
WILLIAMSON Matilda Eliza  1877  At Ballarat  Reg#20023

Marriage in Victoria
WILLIAMSON Matilda Eliza  Born Ballarat
BARNES William Edward  Born Victoria
1900  Reg#2128

Death in NSW
9853/1949  BARNES Matilda Eliza  Father John Edward  Mother  Ellen.  District Ryde.

Birth
WILLIAMSON Gertrude Ellen Isabella 1879 At Lexton  Reg#17425
Death
WILLIAMSON Gertrude Isabella  1880  6 months Birth place unknown  Reg#202

Birth
WILLIAMSON Ethel Annie Ellen 1879  At Lexton  Reg#17426
Death
WILLIAMSON Annie Ethel Ellen  1899  20 years  At Lexton  Reg#14494

Birth
WILLIAMSON Percy Edward George  1881  At Lexton  Reg#10619
Death
WILLIAMSON Percy Edward George  1903   22 years  At Learmonth  Reg#13982

Birth
WILLIAMSON John 1886  At Waai  Reg#22688
WILLIAMSON John 1886  1 day At Waai  Reg#11229

Birth
WILLIAMSON Ellen 1892 At Lexton  Reg#15003
Death
WILLIAMSON Ellen 1892  1 day  At Lexton Reg#6982

Australian Electoral Roll
1903
WILLIAMSON Ellen  Lexton   Postmistress

Marriage
WILLIAMSON Ellen  Born Isle of Wight
TANSWELL Thomas
1911  Reg#10359

Thomas was previously married to a Margaret and had the occupation music teacher on the electoral roll. 

Australian Electoral Roll
1914
TANSWELL Ellen  Newtown, Beechworth  HD
TANSWELL Thomas  Newtown, Beechworth   Independent Means

Death
TANSWELL Thomas
Father Thomas  Mother Ann COOPER
At Beechworth  62 years  1915  Reg#310

and 3rd Marriage
TANSWELL Ellen
MAWDESLEY William
1917  Reg#6209

Australian Electoral Roll
1919,1924
MAWDESLEY Ellen Last Street Beechworth  HD
MAWDESLEY William  Last Street Beechworth  Retired farmer.

Deaths
MAWDESLEY William
Father  James  Mother Sarah REDDYOFF
At Beechworth  76 years  1927  Reg#8500

MAWDESLEY Ellen
Father George HAINES  Mother Rebecca GUTTERIDGE
At Beechworth  74 years  1930  Reg#275


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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 January 15 06:46 GMT (UK) »
PROV has a few wills for some of your family which you may like to look up.  Unfortunately those relating to deaths after 1925 have not yet been digitised but there are some useful death dates given.
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

There are some HAINES burials listed at Wonthaggi, including a William Hurst HAINES 1900-1943.
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/vic/bass_coast/wonthaggign_data.htm

Tanswell's Hotel is still in Beechworth which was a gold-mining town in the late 1800s. The Thomas TANSWELL who married Ellen WILLIAMSON would have been born in 1853 according to his death certificate, so I suspect that the Thomas TANSWELL who bought the hotel in 1870 may well have been his father.
http://www.dpcd.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/138137/Tanswells.pdf

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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 04 January 15 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Jane what is the source of your information about this family?  How do you know how many are in the next generations?  If you have found an online tree perhaps you could contact the owner.

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There are some HAINES burials listed at Wonthaggi, including a William Hurst HAINES 1900-1943.
http://www.australiancemeteries.com/vic/bass_coast/wonthaggign_data.htm
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This database is of headstones/plaques only.  Photos are available on request.  Email address is on the website.

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Christopher Hurst ‘Hirsty’ Haines (70)
Born & lived in Australia
Foreman in the State Coalmine, Wonthaggi, Victoria
(opened in 1910, closed in 1968 - now a tourist attraction)
Ballarat E, Victoria (25/1/1871 - 12/2/1941?) Waggi, Inverloch, Victoria
m 1894 in Victoria, Australia
Mary Martha ‘Minnie’ Croy (65/66)
Scarsdale, Victoria, (7/6/1873 - 14/10/1939) ?
(dau of Peter & Elizabeth A Nicholson -
both b in Great Britain)

Marriage
HAINES Christopher Hurst  Born Ballarat
CROY Minnie  Born Scarsdale
1894  Reg#6633

Births
HAINES George Gutteridge
Father Christopher Hurst  Mother Minnie CROY
At Allandale  1895  Reg#17335

HAINES Eva May
Father Christopher Hurst  Mother Minnie CROY
At Allandale  1898  Reg#104

HAINES Nellie Elizabeth
Father Christopher Hurst  Mother Minnie CROY
At Allandale  1899  Reg#15006

HAINES William Hurst
Father Christopher Hurst  Mother Minnie CROY
At Daylesford  1901  Reg#18484

HAINES Mavis Jean
Father Christopher Hurst  Mother Minnie CROY
At Powlett  1912  Reg#23416

Australian Electoral Roll
1909
HAINES Christopher  Magazine Hill, Daylesford  Hairdresser
HAINES Minnie  Magazine Hill, Daylesford  HD

1914, 1919
HAINES Christopher Hurst  Wonthaggi  Foreman
HAINES Minnie  Wonthaggi  HD

1924
HAINES Christopher Hurst  State Coal Mine  Foreman
HAINES George Gutheridge  State Coal Mine  Driver
HAINES Minnie  State Coal Mine  HD
HAINES Nellie Elizabeth  State Coal Mine  HD

1931
HAINES Alexandria May  McKenzie Crescent Wonthaggi  HD
HAINES Christopher Hurse  State Coal Mine  Foreman
HAINES  Eileen Jean  5 Merrin Street  Wonthaggi  HD
HAINES George Gutheridge  McKenzie Crescent  Wonthaggi  Carrier
HAINES Minnie  State Coal Mine  HD
HAINES William Hurst  5 Merrin Street Wonthaggi  Clerk
HAINES Christopher Hurst State Coal Mine  Foreman

Death
HAINES Christopher
No parents noted
At Wongthaggi  70 years  1941  Reg#16485

HAINES Mary Martha
Father Peter CROY   Mother Elizabeth UNKNOWN
At Wonthaggi  68 years  1939  Reg#19690

HAINES George Gutteridge
Father Christopher  Mother Minnie CROY
At Melbourne East  45 years  1940  Reg#5939

HAINES William Hurst
Father Christopher  Mother Minnie CROY
At Wonthaggi  43 years  1944  Reg#23486

HALL Eva May
Father Christopher HAINES  Mother Minnie Martha CROY
At Heidelberg  78 years  1975  Reg#7048

HAINES William Francis
Father William Hurst  Mother Eileen Jean
At Wonthaggi  41 years  1983  Reg#10544

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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 04 January 15 09:45 GMT (UK) »
Marriages
HAINES Nellie Elizabeth
JACOBS William
1924  Reg#3332

HAINES Mavis Jean
EVANS Mansel Olando
1933  Reg#3740

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We do know that there are still members of the family living in Wonthaggi 150 years on, one of whom died in 2014

http://tributes.heraldsun.com.au/notice/35082095/view?random=1420365290827

Only one HAINES listing in whitepages for the Wonthaggi Region.
http://www.whitepages.com.au/?entryType=R#

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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #16 on: Monday 05 January 15 04:39 GMT (UK) »
Have you had a look in Trove?
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/search?adv=y
Type in Haines and tick the Victoria box (for now) And start looking. I found 174,000 references to Haines in Victorian newspapers, you may need to specify dates to narrow the search a little.
For your Ballarat Haines Trove only has the Ballarat Courier digitised for the WW1 years, The Ballarat Star is completely digitised but didn't last long. After you have waded through that 174,000 then have a look at the newspapers in the rest of Australia, often choice juicy bits of news were reported in newspapers in very distant places. Gosssip would be reported in the Melbourne Argus, News of mine disasters in Victoria were often reported in other mining towns, Kalgoorlie and Broken Hill for example. You can find things that never gets passed down in family legends.
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Re: Haines family lived in Ballarat from c1865 to the present day looking for burial
« Reply #17 on: Monday 05 January 15 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Rusted I have spent quite some time searching TROVE.  The HAINES references in the Ballarat newspapers in the era are for a policitian not connected to this family.  I can find nothing to date for this particular HAINES line.

The OP was logged in yesterday and perhaps we have found nothing new.

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