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Margeret Skillings !
« on: Saturday 03 January 15 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello I 'have posted on another section but no luck   I'am looking for Margaret Skillings 1836 born Paisley Scotland . She is in Wales in 1871 and then married there too . I am trying to find her before 1871 but have had no luck she does-not seem to be on any cences before 1871 in England so i thought she may have been in Scotland as she was born there any help please .
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Re: Margeret Skillings !
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 January 15 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Do you have any further information such as her husbands name and occupation
Ramsay, Struthers, Stark (Avondale, Lanarkshire) Haughey, Martin (Ballyrashane) Neely, Fraser (Londonderry) Hill (Anderston, Glasgow), Cranstoun, Carruthers (Dumfries) MacIndoe (Springburn & Bridgeton, Glasgow) McKay (Springburn, Glasgow) Fraser (Paisley)

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Re: Margeret Skillings !
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 January 15 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Magicnanny,

I take it Margaret Skillings is the lady on the 1871 Census who is living as an employee (housekeeper) with the Lenoir family /head of house Robert Lenoir and what could be her 2 year old daughter Elizabeth in Newport Monmothshire.
Think this could be her in Newport on the 1861 - age 22 (a wee bit out but when are Census ages ever consistent) as Margaret Skelland -  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7Y8-1VN

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Re: Margeret Skillings !
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 January 15 17:59 GMT (UK) »
I'd come to that conclsuion as well Looby - see this thread, in which Margaret is one of the people searched for

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=502375.msg5521008#msg5521008

By the way, it's Robert Senior and family (not Lenoir!)


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Re: Margeret Skillings !
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 January 15 18:08 GMT (UK) »
Didn't know there was another thread  ;)

Family search have transcribed Senior as Lenior (which sounded a little bit Continental :) ).
Margaret's name  has obviously been misspelled too somewhere along the line.

Regarding Robert Skelland , he and his family should be in Newport on 1851 Census as his daughter Sarah is according to 1861 Census born there in approx. 1849.

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Re: Margeret Skillings !
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 January 15 18:19 GMT (UK) »
And she is - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTP-2CM

as is Margaret from Paisley https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTP-2H1

and Peter Skelland - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGTP-2HB
Unfortunately I don't have access to 1851 English Census but at least they seem to be on it. No wife as far as I can see,

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Re: Margeret Skillings !
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 January 15 18:20 GMT (UK) »
This marriage in Pontypool is interesting

6/1/1867,
Robert Senior, 20, Bachelor, labourer, otp, father Robert Senior, platelayer
Sarah, Skelling, 21, Spinster otp. Father Peter Skelling, basket maker
Witnesses John Channon, Mary Ann Channon

This does appear to be the sister of Margaret "Skelland" from 1861 marrying Robert Senior's son. In 1881 another of Robert's sons Mark is with them. Peter "Skelland" on 1861 is a basket maker

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Re: Margeret Skillings !
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 January 15 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Very interesting Mabel.  Certainly looks like Margaret's sister marries her employer's son.

Now I think I may have located Peter and Margaret on the Scottish 1841 Census.
As transcribed on Freecen -
65 Belgrove Place, Glasgow, Lanarkshire

Helen Ennis             age 35        Cotton Winder                 Born Lanarkshire
James Maltman        age 30        Cooper                                   "
Mary Maltman          age 30                                                     "
John Maltman           age 8                                                       "
Catherine Maltman    age 6                                                       "
James Maltman         age 2                                                       "
Peter Scillon        age 35                                                Born England
Elizabeth Scillon     age 20                                              Born *Outside Census County
Margaret Cruikshanks  age 2                                            Born *Outside Census County

*The term outside Census county means born in Scotland but not in the County where they are residing at the time of Census.

So could this be Peter with a young wife and a toddler Margaret Cruikshanks ( his daughter later called Margaret Skelland/Skillings).  Could this Be Elizabeth Scillon's child but not Peter's.
More investigating is required but I think this entry is a strong contender for Peter and his daughter.

Looby :)


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Re: Margeret Skillings !
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 January 15 21:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Could this be them in 1851?

Peter Skelland wdr 47 basket maker b Knutsford
Margaret Skelland 12 daughter b Paisley
Sarah Skelland 2 daughter b Newport

Address 4 Birds Court Newport. Another family with the surname Hawks are recorded as lodgers.

Sarah's birth reg seems to be under the surname Skallind as Sarah Ann Skallind in the October quarter 1848 in Newport.

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Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)