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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #27 on: Monday 12 January 15 04:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi could I just ask, as the couple married in 1847 have you located them in the 1851 census, as their is this Christopher in 1851?:-

Christopher Whitehead 31 Married occ Game Keeper b Burley
Samuel Whitehead 18 (Brother in Law/Visitor) occ Rover (Worsted) b Burley
Residing at Lane Top, Burley
Census Ref HO107/2284/325/30

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Yes. I saw that one.  But I don't know what most of that means.   Could you please explain it?

What is Occ?

Could samuel be Mary's brother?
What is rover/worsted?

A Rover prepared wool (or cotton) for spinning. Worsted is a type of wool yarn
He probably worked in an industrial worsted mill, They were very common in the West Riding

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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #28 on: Monday 12 January 15 10:04 GMT (UK) »
All Saints, Otley - from Ancestry

10 June 1811 - William Whitehead (husbandman) of this parish, and Mary Mitchel of this parish married by Banns.

15 September 1823 - John Whitehead (Labourer) of this parish and Sarah Manners of the parish of Leathley, married by Banns.

Baptisms at All Saints, Otley

Thomas, born 10 October, baptised 6 November 1814.  William and Mary from Otley, Corn Dealer.
Christopher, born 13 June, baptised 9 August 1818.  William and Mary from Burley, Farmer
Mary, born 16 August, baptised 13 September 1822.  William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
William, born 29 October, baptised 24 December 1826.  William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Sarah, born 19 July, baptised 2 October 1831.  William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Margaret, born 20 May, baptised 21 June 1833.  Wlliam and Mary from Menston, Farmer

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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #29 on: Monday 12 January 15 12:20 GMT (UK) »
All Saints, Otley - from Ancestry

10 June 1811 - William Whitehead (husbandman) of this parish, and Mary Mitchel of this parish married by Banns.

15 September 1823 - John Whitehead (Labourer) of this parish and Sarah Manners of the parish of Leathley, married by Banns.

Baptisms at All Saints, Otley

Thomas, born 10 October, baptised 6 November 1814.  William and Mary from Otley, Corn Dealer.
Christopher, born 13 June, baptised 9 August 1818.  William and Mary from Burley, Farmer
Mary, born 16 August, baptised 13 September 1822.  William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
William, born 29 October, baptised 24 December 1826.  William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Sarah, born 19 July, baptised 2 October 1831.  William and Mary from Menston, Farmer
Margaret, born 20 May, baptised 21 June 1833.  Wlliam and Mary from Menston, Farmer

Are the William and mary from otley, burley and menston the same people? What is the difference between otley, burley and menston?

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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #30 on: Monday 12 January 15 12:32 GMT (UK) »
I have no idea whether William and Mary from Otley, Burley and Menston are the same couple.  These are merely extracts from the parish records, using the criteria of William and Mary Whitehead being the parents.

Otley, Burley and Menston are the "Abode" addresses recorded in the baptisms, i.e. where the family were living at the time of the baptisms.  If you look at GENUKI - Yorkshire - you will see that Burley and Menston are both within the parish of Otley.  Google Maps will confirm the locations.



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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #31 on: Monday 12 January 15 13:41 GMT (UK) »
What is the difference between otley, burley and menston?

Robert, you really should learn how to use google maps. It is a very simple search which you can easily do for yourself. You will be able to clearly see the locations of each of these places in vivid colour. It is much easier than someone trying to explain the locations to you when you are obviously not familiar with the area.

I have suggested and provided links on two or three of your other threads that you should look at Genuki and google maps to answer these really really simple little questions, and I see BumbleB has also suggested the same.

The parish records kindly supplied by BumbleB may very well be the same couple - even though their abode varied slightly they could easily have moved, or perhaps the locations were just recorded differently. If this are the only William and Mary in the vicinity it is quite possible they are your family.

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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #32 on: Monday 12 January 15 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ruskie.

AND if we go back to a previous thread by gliesian66  - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709748.0 in which he has added a partial tree.  I'm not sure where this tree comes from, but it doesn't sit quite right - to me  :-\

In this tree we have Christopher Whitehead married to Mary Whitehead with children -

John Whitehead born 1856 in Pool, Joseph BALDWIN Whitehead born 1859 in Burley and William Whitehead born 1853 in Burley.

1861 Census in Leeds:
Christopher, a Gardener aged 42 born Burley
Mary aged 34
Margaret aged 11
William aged 8
John aged 5 born POOL
Joseph aged 2 - all children, except John, born in Burley

1861 Census in Otley
Christopher, a Corn Dealer aged 33 born Rawdon (Leeds)
Christiana aged 29 born Rochdale
Susannah aged 3
Joseph B aged 2 - children born Otley

Marriage 14 November 1855 - St Chad, Rochdale
Christopher Whitehead of Weston, Yorkshire aged 27 - father:  Joseph, a Farmer
Christiana BALDWIN of Rochdale aged 23

So, we have two Christopher Whitehead candidates, plus two child Joseph Whitehead candidates  ::)  Only Joseph Baldwin Whitehead appears to have been registered in Otley - March quarter 1859, although saying that there is a Joseph Whitehead registered in June quarter 1859 in Rochdale  - aaarghhhhhhhhh  :-X



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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #33 on: Monday 12 January 15 14:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ruskie.

AND if we go back to a previous thread by gliesian66  - http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=709748.0 in which he has added a partial tree.  I'm not sure where this tree comes from, but it doesn't sit quite right - to me  :-\

In this tree we have Christopher Whitehead married to Mary Whitehead with children -

John Whitehead born 1856 in Pool, Joseph BALDWIN Whitehead born 1859 in Burley and William Whitehead born 1853 in Burley.

1861 Census in Leeds:
Christopher, a Gardener aged 42 born Burley
Mary aged 34
Margaret aged 11
William aged 8
John aged 5 born POOL
Joseph aged 2 - all children, except John, born in Burley

1861 Census in Otley
Christopher, a Corn Dealer aged 33 born Rawdon (Leeds)
Christiana aged 29 born Rochdale
Susannah aged 3
Joseph B aged 2 - children born Otley

Marriage 14 November 1855 - St Chad, Rochdale
Christopher Whitehead of Weston, Yorkshire aged 27 - father:  Joseph, a Farmer
Christiana BALDWIN of Rochdale aged 23

So, we have two Christopher Whitehead candidates, plus two child Joseph Whitehead candidates  ::)  Only Joseph Baldwin Whitehead appears to have been registered in Otley - March quarter 1859, although saying that there is a Joseph Whitehead registered in June quarter 1859 in Rochdale  - aaarghhhhhhhhh  :-X

I think the Baldwin is wrong. 

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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #34 on: Monday 12 January 15 14:35 GMT (UK) »
OK
1851 Census
Burley - Christopher Whitehead 31 and brother-in-law Samuel

Weston - Christopher Whitehead 23, born Rawdon with parents Joseph 54, Martha 51 and siblings Ann 21 and Emma 13.

1841 Census:
Menston - Thomas Whitehead 23, Christopher 20, William 12, Sarah 8, Martha 10 and Margaret 7.

Carlton (Guiseley)
Joseph Whitehead 40, a farmer with Martha 40, Christopher 10, Ann 10 and Emma 3.

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Re: Christopher Whitehead (b 1818) parents
« Reply #35 on: Monday 12 January 15 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Here is the Whitehead family tree in a fan chart...

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