walker family

[huey1]

I have James F (Ferris)Walker married Deborah Morrison 29nov1862 Sinclair Presb Church Belfast he was 21 she 18 b abt 1843-4 Ferris d 06jul1893 Deborah d 14sept1914 they had 7 children that i have found
Mary Jane b 21mar1865
William John b 30apr1867
Agnes(Nancy?) b 02apr1869
Hugh Nesbitt b 04jan1872
Ann Elizabeth b 13feb1874
Hugh Jamieson b 18jul1876 my grandfather d19jul1960 England
Samuel James b 16oct1881 d 06apr1948 England
on the 1901 census i show Deborah at 6 Norman st Belfast
 with Nellie? age 21,Samuel and Hugh
on the 1911 census i show her at same address with Ellen age 28, Samuel and a granddaughter May age 6
Would Nellie and Ellen be one and the same even though the ages and the occupations on the census form dont quite match?i have been unable to find any birth info on Ellen, Nellie or May.Would there be another name for May in that time frame i would like to find out who she belongs too i also have been unable to find any concrete marriage or death info for the children other than Hugh and Samuel
Thanks for any help
huey1

[dathai]

for reference
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Norman_Street/937059/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Norman_Street/138085/

some births
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bfather_surname%3Awalker~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Adeborah~&collection_id=1584963

[aghadowey]

A few details here need clarified-

James Ferris Walker m.(1862) Deborah Morrison
1. Mary Jane* b 21mar1865
     Birth (un-named): https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPTR-CD4
2. William John** b 30apr1867 actual birth on registration: 31 Mar.1867
     Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FR9P-4MR
3. Agnes (Nancy?) b 02apr1869
     Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5X9-8JF
4. Hugh Nesbitt b 04jan1872
     Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPKR-GJH
5. Ann Elizabeth b 13feb1874 registration: Anna Eliza
     Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPB4-4L4
6. Hugh Jamieson b 18jul1876 my grandfather d19jul1960 England 18 June 1876
     Birth: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNN-K7H
7. Samuel James b 16oct1881 d 06apr1948 England

I think that Ellen/Nellie might be Anna Eliza. There might also be (an)other child/children born between 1862-1864. see gaffy's later post about birth record for Elleanor/Eleanor Nesbitt

Jane Walker*, father- Ferris, married (5 June 1887 Belfast) Alexander Davidson

William Walker**, father- Ferris, married (25 Mar.1891 Belfast) Martha Ellen McCleery
 1901- William & Martha Walker with family, including son Ferris
     www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Hillman_Street/936152
 www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Hillman_Street/137293

[dathai]

There is the possibility that May or Mary was enumerated twice
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Garden_St/136645/

Edit later
Hugh's return collected on 8th April
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001408021/
Deborah's on the 11th April
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001411811/

[dathai]

See you were a bit confused a few years back
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=291411.msg1747516#msg1747516

Hugh Jamieson married Elizabeth Brown Christie in Dublin 1905

[aghadowey]

William Walker**, father- Ferris, boilermaker, married (25 Mar.1891 Belfast) Martha Ellen McCleery (c1871)
 1901- William & Martha Walker with family, including son Ferris
     www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Hillman_Street/936152
 www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Hillman_Street/137293
1.   George (23 Sept.1892)
2.   Samuel (2 Feb.1895)
3.   Andrew (5 Jan.1898)
4.   Frances (2 Feb.1900) mother- McClury
5.   Ferris (18 Mar.1901) mother- McClury
6.   Hugh (9 June 1903)
7.   Irene Constance (28 May 1906)
8.   Jeannie (24 May 1909)
?   William (5 Jan.1912)

[dathai]

Jane Walker Davidson ? 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Duncairn_Street/935706/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Dock_Ward/Strathaden_Street/138693/

[aghadowey]

I had considered that Jane Davidson but didn't post as I wasn't able to find births for both daughters & the number of years married was off a bit (although perhaps she was counting from date of marriage to Alexander's death).

One possibility that I did find-
Jane Davidson (born 15 Jan.1891 Belfast)- mother Walker

[gaffy]

Would Nellie and Ellen be one and the same even though the ages and the occupations on the census form dont quite match?i have been unable to find any birth info on Ellen, Nellie...

Yes, I think they are probably one and the same person in 1901 and 1911 and that person is likely to be a daughter registered in the Belfast district as 'Elleanor' (per GRONI online) Walker who was born 8 November 1878, the mother's maiden name being Morrison.  A search of the 'Birth/Baptism Records' index on the Ulster Historical Foundation website brings back an 1878 record for Eleanor Nesbitt Walker (that 'Nesbitt' name again) with parents Pharos (sic) Walker and Deborah Morrison.

Furthermore, a possible candidate for a marriage. A William James Taylor married an Ellen Nesbitt Walker in Sinclair Seamens Presbyterian Church on 21 February 1918.  A search of the Ulster Historical Foundation website 'Marriage Records' index indicates that the groom's father was called Richard and the bride's father was called Francis - this might simply be a mistranscription of Ferris.  GRONI online has the civil marriage record of that date registered in the Belfast district as William Taylor to Ellen Walker.