Children of Rev John Barr of Houston/Glasgow

[JONTYA1]

Hi Would be grateful for any help;
Looking for any information on the children of Rev John Barr Minister of Dovehill Relief Church Glasgow and his wife Eliza/Elizabeth Houston married 14 Dec 1813 in Glasgow Scotland.  Rev John Barr died 18 Mar 1839 in Rothesay Bute. I think he was born about 1777. His wife Eliza/Elizabeth Houston died 8 sept 1877 at Motherwell, aged 81yrs b about 1796 maybe in Greenock. [I have a copy of her Death Certificate. Informant was her grandson John Colville

I also have a copy of Rev John Barr’s Will, in the Will he mentioned his children, John his eldest son, Elizabeth, William, Janet, Robert, James and George. I have found the birth/bapt of George Elliot Barr 19/10/1821 b Houston; (1) Janet Barr 18/04/1814/ Janet Barr 11/12/1820 Glasgow; John Barr 27/7/1824 Houston; and Robert Barr 28/5/1825 Glasgow;   (if John was the eldest child then George Elliott Bar1821 and (1} Janet Barr 1814 must have died) (I have all the info I need on Janet Barr 1820 as I know she married David Colville in 1845 at Campbeltown, Argyllshire}
 I have searched the Census from 1841 to 1871 and cannot find Eliza/Elizabeth Houston/Barr or John Barr 1824; Robert Barr 1825; and also the Birth/ Bapt of Elizabeth Barr; William Barr; James Barr; and George Barr

Jay

[MonicaL]

Hi Jay

Will be an interesting family for sure to research 

Janet seems well covered as you say www.thepeerage.com/p24250.htm

Given Janet's marriage was in Campbeltown in 1845, wondered whether this was mother in 1851?

Eliza Barr 54 Income From Property & Interest b. Greenock
Elizabeth Colville 23 Grandaughter b. Campbelton, argyle
Grace Currie 14 servant
Address: Main Street, Campbeltown Argyll

Not showing on FreeCen www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl  Apart from the transcript above, you would need to check original image on Scotlands People. Likely granddaughter Elizabeth Colville's age is mistranscribed given Janet Barr married in 1845.

Monica 

[MonicaL]

Eliza Barr looks to be living with David Colville and daughter Janet in 1871 at 251 Bath Street, Glasgow/Blythswood. Showing as mother in law, aged 73 and born in Greenock.

Monica

[loobylooayr]

Hi Folks,
Could this  be Eliza on 1841 at Rothesay , Bute
Living at Argyle Place.

    BARR       Eliza       F       40       Independent        
     BARR       Robt.       M       10               
     MCDONALD       Eliza       F       5               
    MCDONALD       Charles       M       5               
    MCDONALD       Duncan       M       3               
    MCALISTER       Grace       F       20       Female Servant        
All born outside Census County apart from servant Grace who is from Bute.

Looby

[MonicaL]

Well done Looby, that looks promising for 1841 

Jay, can I make pure wild guesses for now regarding possible leads for John and Eliza's son Robert....

There is this birth for an Eliza Barr https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMSR-6H5

Mother/wife Amelia Edith Huddleston was a big character, see www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=14528950 and www.online-literature.com/amelia-barr/ for example.

There is the middle name of Amelia coming in as a middle name into Janet Barr/Colville - Mary Amelia Colville  b. 4 Dec 1850  (2+2 might make wrong!).

There is this death for a daughter, Alice Edith in the US, showing Robert as born in Glasgow here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FP3X-PQL ...so I am hopeful 

Will try and find Robert in 1851...

[MonicaL]

Barr, Amelia Huddleston (1831–1919) www.encyclopedia.com/article-1G2-2591300840/barr-amelia-huddleston-18311919.html

British-American author of American historical fiction. Name variations: Amelia Edith Barr. Born Amelia Faith Huddleston on March 29, 1831, in Ulverston, Lancashire, England; died on March 10, 1919, in New York; daughter of Mary Singleton and William Henry Huddleston (a Methodist minister); sporadically educated at home and in private schools; married Robert Barr (1826–1867), on July 11, 1850, in Kendal, England; children: thirteen, including four who died at birth, and Mary (b. 1851), Eliza (called Lilly, b. 1853), Edith (b. 1854), Calvin (b. 1857), Alice (b. 1859), Ethel (b. 1861), Alexander (b. 1863), Archibald (b. 1864), and Andrew (b. 1867).

Hopeful, Robert Barr's dates would fit for the Glasgow birth of the Robert we are discussing.

Trying to find any bio on this Robert. His bio seems to have been de-railed by his wife's huge talent...

Monica

[loobylooayr]

Hi Monica,
I have a feeling Robert is on the England 1851 - which I have no access too.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP9Q-JN2

Perhaps this is when he met the very interesting Amelia 

Looby

[loobylooayr]

Posts clashed Monica
Amelia must have been a very modern lady for her time.

Looby

[MonicaL]

Amelia sounds awesome  I found her autobiography (lost it on multiple searches, but can be refound for sure).

Jay, I hope she is Robert's wife...fascinating other character to follow.

Looby, let me find Robert, in 1851. You are right, he must be in England, just prior to marriage.

Monica