Searching Dysartbeagh, Laois

[xpress4]

I would like further information on two people listed in the Griffith's Valuation for the townload of Dysartbeagh, parish of Clonenagh and Clonagheen. Where would one start searching?

Thank you!
Brenda

[aghadowey]

Might depend on how common the surnames/combination of surnames & Christian names are.
After Griffith's there's
civil registration index (up to 1958) and other resrouces on Family Search-
     https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927084
Wills http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/search/cwa/index.jsp
Church records (may not survive/be online)

If you want to follow a particular property foward in time there are Valuation Revision books which end c1930. Those for Northern Ireland counties are online through PRONI's site but the rest of Ireland's are in National Archives, Dublin as far as I know.

You can also try google using a combination of terms (really surpriing what can turn up. For example-
john smith & dysartbeagh, john smith & clonenagh, john smith & cavan, dysartbeagh cavan, etc.

If you'd like help just post the names and any other details you have here.

[xpress4]

Hi Aghadowey,

Quite common unfortunately: Moore. The only thing that helps me is the first name of Fenton.

There was a Denis Moore and Fenton Moore (listed as Fanton Moore in the record) next to one another. I mistakenly said I found it in the Griffiths Valuation but it was the Tithe Applotment Book.

Thanks for providing the links. I checked them all but could not find anything pertaining to the ancestors I'm searching for. This would record would be too young to be my Denis (my 4G grandfather b. about 1814) but his father's name was Fenton and they were born in Queen's County... I believe in or around Mountrath.

Denis' father, Fenton Moore, was a butcher and that's all I know of him.

Denis Moore was married to Bridget Law and began work for the Ordnance Survey at some point. He left Ireland sometime between 1839 and 1847 for Scotland and then England (following the work of the OS). The OS work has made the family a challenge as they were somewhere different each census year! 

I have a lot of information on him AFTER he left Ireland but can't find anything Irish other than the birth of his daughter Mary in Kilkenny in 1839.  The only other family members from Ireland are from a 1851 census record in Scotland where a brother Anthony b. ~1831 Queens County and a nephew Fenton Moore b. ~1831 Queens County...(or so the census record says).

As I'm not sure of their religion, I don't know where to go in hopes of finding church records but that's what I'm trying to locate and need guidance on.

Sorry for the long winded message. Any other tips would be much appreciated!

Thanks so much,
Brenda

[aghadowey]

Have you tried tracing Anthony's family? Is this him? would marriage give parents' names perhaps?
Birth: Fenton Moore, 19 Feb.1857 Calton Glasgow, parents- Anthony Moore & Elizabeth Cummings

Fenton Moore born 1807 Queens Co.- perhaps detail in pension records?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5HY-JT5

LDS database also has other records for 'fenton moore' 'ireland' including prison records (but born 1869 so too late for the ones you want to trace).

Submitted family trees here-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:37K7-WQR
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:37K7-W9G

[Jack2227]

Fenton Moore' b.1807 Clennena Mountrath
Private 524
Northamptonshire Reg; 48/58/Foot
Discharge
Attestation; 1825
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Fenton Thomas Moore;
b.5/7/1887 Mountrath
Residence; Iowa
Registration year; 1917
WWW 1 Draft Reg Cards
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Jack.

[xpress4]

Thank you!

Jack, I have the service record of Fenton Moore b. 1807 but that didn't offer any clues unfortunately but confirmed he attested in or near the town of Mountrath (not sure if that means town or civil parish...which has always been so confusing to me) in 1825 at the age of 18.

Aghadowey, I have the OPR extract of Anthony's marriage but no parents or town of birth listed. That is him that you listed. I have his children's birth records and a census record in England after. Couldn't find his death.

I believe I need to search records for births. Dysartbeagh appears to be very near Mountrath. Not knowing the religion, can you recommend a source for determining which churches would hold those records...not catholic and protestant?

Thank you!

[aghadowey]

Not sure what you mean by "I believe I need to search records for births. Dysartbeagh appears to be very near Mountrath. Not knowing the religion, can you recommend a source for determining which churches would hold those records...not catholic and protestant?" but will give you a few links to look at-

Catholic Parishes, records, etc.
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/laoisrc.htm
Think Dysartbeagh might come under Mountrath Catholic parish and it looks like earliest church records are from 1823.

Co. Laois graveyards-
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/fuses/counties/index.cfm?fuseaction=graveyards&CityCounty=Laois#Laois

Church of Ireland website- click on map markings to find name of church-
http://ireland.anglican.org/information/dioceses/69

[Jack2227]

Laois County Council;

http://www.laois.ie/

Top right corner have a " Map IT" section.

Scroll down for Mountrath, and Dysartbeagh is just off Patrick St.

Excellent map.
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[xpress4]

Thanks to you both. I really appreciate your time!