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Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« on: Saturday 17 January 15 03:12 GMT (UK) »
In the course of my research I have noted that the above were named parents of John Mackenzie who was baptised Rosemarkie 26/3/1822. Other children apparently were Mary Ann, 1830, Fergus 1828, Henry 1837, Donald 1824 and Robert 1825.
I have not been able to confirm the marriage of Robert and Ann and assistance here would be much appreciated as would more details on Robert MacKenzie.
It is possible that their son John 1822, may have married Jamima Junor 29/8/1838, Rosemarkie who are my GG Grandparents.
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Re: Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 January 15 08:49 GMT (UK) »
Statutory civil registration began in 1855 in Scotland, so any reference to a marriage before then would be in the parish registers. The parish registers, however, are not always complete and sometimes there are gaps. Not finding details of a marriage before 1855 does not mean it did not take place.

You could look for the family in the 1841 and 1851 census. The death certificate of John (b 1822)will name both his parents (including his mother's maiden name). These can be got on-line via the Scotland's People site. There are lots of posts here about how to access it.

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Re: Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 January 15 05:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks GR2. I have been on this search for over 10 years and only now got a handle on my Scottish family. I can only conclude that Robert and Ann are in my tree and although having a record of my GG Grandparents, John McKenzie and Jamima Junor I have not been able to confirm John's parentage albeit Robert and Ann are strong possibilities.
John Mckenzie was a Mariner absent from home at the time of the 1841 census and he may have died at sea. No death records have been found to date. Similarly with Jamima.
It aint easy being a McKenzie.
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Re: Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 January 15 10:30 GMT (UK) »
What was address for 1841 census for John & Jamima? Was it a death certificate you got the couple's name from?
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman


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Re: Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 January 15 20:55 GMT (UK) »
I have not been able to obtain the address of Robert and Ann at this point but John's address was simply High Street, Rosemarkie.
Names for John and his wife Jamima/Jemima were obtained from the Marriage Certificate of their son Alexander who was married in Melbourne, Australia. He was aged about 1 at the time of the Census.
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Re: Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 January 15 22:00 GMT (UK) »
Rosemarkie
Address: Keillockhead
In the house of farmer Donald MacLean aged 63

MACKENZIE Fergus M 10 Ross and Cromarty

No other matching MacKenzies
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 January 15 22:39 GMT (UK) »
1841 census
Academy Street, Inverness (town) Inverness-shire has this similar family but problem is John

MACKENZIE Robert M 43 Blacksmith        All Born Outside Census County (1841)           
MACKENZIE Ann F    42   
MACKENZIE Margaret F 18       Bonnetmaker       
MACKENZIE John M 16       Shoemaker        
MACKENZIE Robert M 14       Tailor            
MACKENZIE Hendry M 2       
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 January 15 04:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Fifer. I can't see a connection here. Children's names are different from what I have obtained via "Family Search".
I seem to be getting closer but it certainly is testing the patience.
Regards. Maxn

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Re: Robert MacKenzie and Ann Bain, Rosemarkie
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 January 15 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Fifer. I can't see a connection here. Children's names are different from what I have obtained via "Family Search".
I seem to be getting closer but it certainly is testing the patience.
Regards. Maxn

Parents Robert & Ann and son Hendry born 'out of county' were the 'connection'.

OK here's the links to Parish Map of the area http://www.scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-caithness.htm  and to Freecen http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

You can search every entry for Rosemarkie for 1841 but there are only 6 MacKenzie entries (of which Fergus is one) and 62 McKenzie entries amongst which there is no Henry, Donald, Mary Ann or Robert and no likely Ann, so the famly had either left the parish, or not been enumerated.  Maybe they were in one of the neighbouring parishes but nothing likely shows up.

I therefore looked across the water to Inverness, the nearest town.

Good luck with your searching.
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman