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emma morris born 1852
« on: Sunday 18 January 15 00:36 GMT (UK) »
hello

im looking for more information on my 3x great grandmother Emma morris i have her in the 1891 census living with her husband Arthur Thrupp, she married Arthur in 1872 and gives her fathers name as John Morris.

she gives her date of born as 1852 abt in Worestershire

emma dies in 1896 aged only 44 years

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Re: emma morris born 1852
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 January 15 00:52 GMT (UK) »
The 1871 shows her birthplace as St Johns Worcs but she is in service & not with family

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Re: emma morris born 1852
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 January 15 00:58 GMT (UK) »
Somebody has notified a mis-transcription on the 1861 entry which suggests they may also be researching the same family

1861 - all b St Johns Worcs

John Morris 35 gardener
Eliza  36
Eliza  14
John S  11
Emma  9
Selina  7
Andrew  5
Elizabeth  68 aunt
RG9 Piece 2089 Folio 33 Page 2
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Re: emma morris born 1852
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 January 15 01:00 GMT (UK) »
thank you.


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Re: emma morris born 1852
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 January 15 05:55 GMT (UK) »
Christenings MORRIS;
St. John, Bedwardine, Worcester
Parents JOHN/ELIZA Morris;
ELIZA, 10 Aug 1846
JOHN SPENCER, 23 Dec 1849
EMMA, 22 Aug 1852***
SELINA, 22 Sept 1854, Birth 10 Jan 1854
ANDREW, 26 Marc 1856
(Source Familysearch.Org)

Likely Marriage;
March 1846, Worcester, 18 529
John MORRIS/Eliza SPENCER on same page

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Re: emma morris born 1852
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 January 15 06:43 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census
Owls Lane?,
Worcester St John Bedwardine
HO107/2042/75/33
John Morris, 26, Head, Mar, Leather Dresser, born Worcestershire
Eliza Morris, 25, Wife, Mar, born  Worcestershire
Eliza Morris, 5, Daug, Scholar, born Worcestershire
John Morris, 1, Son, born Worcestershire
Elizabeth Morris, 58, Aunt, Laundress, born Leigh, Worcestershire
Eliza Morris, 22, Neice, Laundress, born Worcester

Pretty sure this is the Morris's in 1841.
Given that John?eliza name a Daug Selina in 1854 looks likely Family connection.
Looked for Eliza born 1829 to find this;

1841 Census
St John Bedwardine
HO107/1199/3/St John Bedwardine
Jno Morris, 40, Glover
JNO Morris, 15, Glovers Apprentice
Elizabeth Morris,   50
Hezikiah Morris, 10
ELIZA Morris, 12
Emma Morris, 7
Selina Morris, 5

Looks like Aunt Elizabeth and possibly Neice Eliza are with John Snr in 1841 and  Johns Wife has died.

This looks like their Baptisms;
St Clement, Worcester
JOHN, 22 November 1825***
ELIZA, 23 Oct 1828 (may have died or be Eliza in 1841 Census)
HEZEKIAH, 22 May 1831
St John, Bedwardine;
EMMA, 15 Dec 1833
SELINA, 12 June 1836
All have Parents as JOHN/ANN****

Possible Marriage;
John MORRIS to Ann DAVIS, 4 October 1824, St. Mary'S, Kidderminster, Worcester


Is is not unlikely that John Jnr a Glovers Apprentice in 1841 becomes a Leather Dresser in 1851.
Why he becomes a Gardener by 1861 I can only guess that the Leather Business was not enough money to support a Family.

Anyhow the Marriage Cert of John/Eliza in 1846 will confirm his Fathers name/occp.

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Re: emma morris born 1852
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 January 15 13:17 GMT (UK) »
Wow thank you trash what happened to Emmas parents when did they die.

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Re: emma morris born 1852
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 July 15 23:22 BST (UK) »
hello

im looking for more information on my 3x great grandmother Emma morris i have her in the 1891 census living with her husband Arthur Thrupp, she married Arthur in 1872 and gives her fathers name as John Morris.

she gives her date of born as 1852 abt in Worestershire

emma dies in 1896 aged only 44 years
I believe Emma Morris might be my great grandmother.  Grandmother is Edith Thrupp who emigrated to Canada.  She was born in July 1888

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Re: emma morris born 1852
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 July 15 23:28 BST (UK) »
Looking for relatives of Edith Thrupp.  Born July 13, 1888 in Staffordshire.  Emigrated to Canada(Calgary, Alberta) and married William Perigo in 1911.