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From Cornwall opc
Day Month   22-Feb
Year   1844
Parish Or Reg District   Wendron
Groom Fn   John
Groom Sn   TRELOAR
Groom Age   Full Age
Groom Residence   Polgear
Groom Condition   Bachelor
Groom Rank Profession   Miner
Groom Signed / Marked (S/M)   M
Groom Father Name   Bennett
Groom Father Rank Profession   Miner
Bride Fn   Elizabeth
Bride Sn   KNUCKEY
Bride Age   18
Bride Residence   Carthew
Bride Condition   Spinster
Bride Rank Profession   
Bride Signed / Marked (S/M)   M
Bride Father Name   John
Bride Father Rank Profession   Miner
Banns / Licence (B/L)   B
Witness Fn1   John
Witness Sn1   Knuckey
Witness Fn2   John
Witness Sn2   Pascoe
Other Information   
Transcriber Notes   
Transcriber   B. Millington
Staffs:BARNETT,SAUNDERS/SANDERS,HICKMAN,GREGORY,WISE,GEORGE,ASTON, DAVENPORT/DEVONPORT
Bucks:PRATT,NUTT,STANNET,WELLS,MITCHELL,SEARES
Kent:GATES,BEACH/BEECH,HAMILTON,SCAMP,JOY,PEARSON,TURNER, KING,WILKINSON,HARRIS,JEWHURST,AVERY,FEATHERSTONE,REEVE,WILLARD, REYNOLDS,KEMSLEY/KIMSLEY,WILES,LEE,EPPS,FOX
Worcs:STOKES,HUGHES,FARMER,MULLET,TAYLOR,SOUTHALL
Ssx:BODLE,BUTLER,HOOD,DENNIS
Leics:DUDLEY,HUDSON,JEFFO,SHRIGLEY
Essex:PATIENT/PATIENCE,CASS,HOY,WATTS
Derby:PEARSON

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Re: Please help me find parents/birth of John treloar who married Elizabeth knuckey
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 00:33 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked them up on the 1851 census to establish his birthyear and birthplace?  His fathers name is shown as Bennett on the marriage info above so did you check Family Search for a baptism?

1851 shows he was aged 30 b Wendron

The Cornwall 1841 is available on Freecen and you will find the entry using the info given

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You will also find his baptism on Family Search

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Re: Please help me find parents/birth of John treloar who married Elizabeth knuckey
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Is this him in 1841?

Wendron Cornwall
Bennet Treloar 55 Copper Miner
Elizabeth 60
Bennet 25 copper miner
James 20 Copper miner
John 20 Copper Miner
Thomas 15
all b in county
HO107 139 6 27 16

there is a baptism Wendron Cornwall
John Treloar 20 Jan 1822 parents Bennet & Elizabeth

marriage 6 Feb 1811 Wendron
Bennet treloar & Elizabeth Penaluna

May be worth checking out

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Re: Please help me find parents/birth of John treloar who married Elizabeth knuckey
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 07:30 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou
Staffs:BARNETT,SAUNDERS/SANDERS,HICKMAN,GREGORY,WISE,GEORGE,ASTON, DAVENPORT/DEVONPORT
Bucks:PRATT,NUTT,STANNET,WELLS,MITCHELL,SEARES
Kent:GATES,BEACH/BEECH,HAMILTON,SCAMP,JOY,PEARSON,TURNER, KING,WILKINSON,HARRIS,JEWHURST,AVERY,FEATHERSTONE,REEVE,WILLARD, REYNOLDS,KEMSLEY/KIMSLEY,WILES,LEE,EPPS,FOX
Worcs:STOKES,HUGHES,FARMER,MULLET,TAYLOR,SOUTHALL
Ssx:BODLE,BUTLER,HOOD,DENNIS
Leics:DUDLEY,HUDSON,JEFFO,SHRIGLEY
Essex:PATIENT/PATIENCE,CASS,HOY,WATTS
Derby:PEARSON


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Re: Please help me find parents/birth of John treloar who married Elizabeth knuckey
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 08:12 GMT (UK) »
A baptism can be found on Cornwall OPC, 1822.


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Re: Please help me find parents/birth of John treloar who married Elizabeth knuckey
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 08:28 GMT (UK) »
You may have to be careful here;

There is a Bennet TRELOAR/Elizabeth MOYLE Wedding 07 April 1806, St Wendron, Wendron also.

Also Bennet/t Treloar is an incredibly common name in Cornwall.

As John has his Residence as Polgear on Marriage the 1841 Census Suzard found for you seems correct as the abode is Polgear.

If Johns Parents stayed in Polgear this is the 1851 for them;

1851 Census
Polgear,
Wendron, Cornwall
HO107/1912/342/20
Bennet TRELOAR, 70, Pauper, born Wendron
Elizth, 70, Wife, born Wendron

Burials;
BENNET Tregoar, 14 April 1860, Holy Trinity, Carnmenellis, age 79, abode Polgear**
ELIZABETH Tregoar, 29 Nov 1860 same Church, age 79, abode Polgear**
(so both born c 1781)

A BENNET Treloar was Baptised St Wendron, Wendron, 10 June 1781 to JAMES/MARY

All above on FreeREG, www.freereg.org.uk

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Re: Please help me find parents/birth of John treloar who married Elizabeth knuckey
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Going by the 1841 Census these are some of Bennet/Elizabeths Childrens Baptisms;
St Wendron;
BENNET, 11 April 1814
JAMES, 18 July 1819
JOHN, 20 Jan 1822 as found by others already
THOMAS, 07 Aug 1825

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Re: Please help me find parents/birth of John treloar who married Elizabeth knuckey
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 21:21 GMT (UK) »
How can I find which Elizabeth married my Bennett treloar? Was it Elizabeth penaluna or Elizabeth moyle?
You may have to be careful here;

There is a Bennet TRELOAR/Elizabeth MOYLE Wedding 07 April 1806, St Wendron, Wendron also.

Also Bennet/t Treloar is an incredibly common name in Cornwall.

As John has his Residence as Polgear on Marriage the 1841 Census Suzard found for you seems correct as the abode is Polgear.

If Johns Parents stayed in Polgear this is the 1851 for them;

1851 Census
Polgear,
Wendron, Cornwall
HO107/1912/342/20
Bennet TRELOAR, 70, Pauper, born Wendron
Elizth, 70, Wife, born Wendron

Burials;
BENNET Tregoar, 14 April 1860, Holy Trinity, Carnmenellis, age 79, abode Polgear**
ELIZABETH Tregoar, 29 Nov 1860 same Church, age 79, abode Polgear**
(so both born c 1781)

A BENNET Treloar was Baptised St Wendron, Wendron, 10 June 1781 to JAMES/MARY

All above on FreeREG, www.freereg.org.uk

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Staffs:BARNETT,SAUNDERS/SANDERS,HICKMAN,GREGORY,WISE,GEORGE,ASTON, DAVENPORT/DEVONPORT
Bucks:PRATT,NUTT,STANNET,WELLS,MITCHELL,SEARES
Kent:GATES,BEACH/BEECH,HAMILTON,SCAMP,JOY,PEARSON,TURNER, KING,WILKINSON,HARRIS,JEWHURST,AVERY,FEATHERSTONE,REEVE,WILLARD, REYNOLDS,KEMSLEY/KIMSLEY,WILES,LEE,EPPS,FOX
Worcs:STOKES,HUGHES,FARMER,MULLET,TAYLOR,SOUTHALL
Ssx:BODLE,BUTLER,HOOD,DENNIS
Leics:DUDLEY,HUDSON,JEFFO,SHRIGLEY
Essex:PATIENT/PATIENCE,CASS,HOY,WATTS
Derby:PEARSON

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Re: Please help me find parents/birth of John treloar who married Elizabeth knuckey
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 21 January 15 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Also trying to find my Bennet's parents?
So much conflicting information. I think I need to find some wills? It is impossible to find who parents are if the share a name with someone else???
Staffs:BARNETT,SAUNDERS/SANDERS,HICKMAN,GREGORY,WISE,GEORGE,ASTON, DAVENPORT/DEVONPORT
Bucks:PRATT,NUTT,STANNET,WELLS,MITCHELL,SEARES
Kent:GATES,BEACH/BEECH,HAMILTON,SCAMP,JOY,PEARSON,TURNER, KING,WILKINSON,HARRIS,JEWHURST,AVERY,FEATHERSTONE,REEVE,WILLARD, REYNOLDS,KEMSLEY/KIMSLEY,WILES,LEE,EPPS,FOX
Worcs:STOKES,HUGHES,FARMER,MULLET,TAYLOR,SOUTHALL
Ssx:BODLE,BUTLER,HOOD,DENNIS
Leics:DUDLEY,HUDSON,JEFFO,SHRIGLEY
Essex:PATIENT/PATIENCE,CASS,HOY,WATTS
Derby:PEARSON