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Ben Crompton
« on: Thursday 22 January 15 14:11 GMT (UK) »
I have been trying to trace my great grandfather Ben Crompton. He was born in Hull 18?? died 1950 in London. Lived or worked in Highgate and was an accountant when he died. He married Marther in Hull and had 6 children leaving them to go to London. At some point he went to prison, we don't know why or which prison. Could anyone please help? Thank you :)

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Re: Ben Crompton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 January 15 14:20 GMT (UK) »
FreeBMD shows his death, at the age of 68, in Islington district.
That puts a birth around 1882?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Ben Crompton
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 January 15 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Birth:
September qtr 1878
Sculcoates district     vol 9d, page 179

Crompton, Ben
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Ben Crompton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 22 January 15 14:34 GMT (UK) »
If you can get access to the 1911 census (we can't tell you what's there, as it's covered by copyright), you will find Ben in Maidstone Prison!


1910, HMP Wakefield Nominal Register has:

Ben Crompton of Hull, at York Assizes 18th Feb 1910
Uttering Forged Order; sentenced to 3 yrs Penal Servitude
Age 32; 5 ft 0 ins; Brown hair; a Bookkeeper
No previous convictions.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Ben Crompton
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 January 15 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi their is a marriage of a Ben Crompton to possibly a Martha Jackson Burnitt March qtr 1902 Goole 9c 1177?

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Re: Ben Crompton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 January 15 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Only birth Reg I can see for a Ben Crompton is in Sculcoates Sep 1878.
1901 Brook St Hull
Alfred Crompton 50 self-employed pawnbroker  Hull
Louisa 45
Arthur 24 chip burner clerk
Benjamin 22 journeyman agent clerk
Harold 20 ship brokers clerk
Wilfred 18 pawnbrokers assistant
Grace L16
Alfred 14 pawnbrokers assistant.

There is a possible marriage at Goole Mar 1902 to a Martha Jackson Burnitt born 1882 Goole.
She died March 1964 in Hull.
Children Clarence 1902,Arthur 1905,Louisa 1907 ,Reginald Ben 1910 and Sylvia 1913.
Can't spot the other child.

By 1.3.1910 he is in Wakefield prison for uttering forged order 3years sentence from court at Hull 28.2.1910.He is a book keeper .Age 32 5ft brown hair

In 1911 he is married and in Maidstone Prison.

In 1918 there is a Ben Crompton at 27 Frome St Islington  on the Electoral roll and he continues to be in the area up to 1950  when Arthur seems to be living with him at 44 Croftdown Road.

Hope that helps.It looks like WW1 was the turning point.
Sorry I was typing during other replies

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Re: Ben Crompton
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 January 15 15:00 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I was typing during other replies

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Type faster, ciderdrinker!! ;D ;D


PS
Martha (born 1881) is in Hull in 1911 with 4 of their children.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Ben Crompton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 January 15 17:15 GMT (UK) »
thank you all very much for the information

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Re: Ben Crompton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 22 January 15 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Sheffield Evening Telegraph - 2 March 1910

Hull City Football Club's  former Secretary
Grave Breach of Trust

Ben Crompton (32) a clerk pleaded feloniously uttered an order for Henry George Mead on behalf of Messrs Sommerfield and Mead of Hull for the payment of the sum of £285 17s 8d with intent to defraud.  Two similar charges in respect of lesser amounts , to which the prisoner pleased not guilty, were not proceeded with.

Prisoner, who has a wife and five young children is well known in connection with Association football in Hull and some years ago was secretary to Hull City Football Club.

Mr Moss Blundell, prosecuting said the prisoner had been employed by the prosecuting company for 12 years as cashier and bookkeeper and he was generally in his employer's confidence. When accounts had to be paid it was usual for the prisoner to fill in the particulars on the cheques and then take them to Mr Mead a director who along had the power to sign cheques. Prisoner had never entered the cheque in question in the company's books or accounted for it in any way

Mr Cautley MP defending admitted that the case was a serious one but in extenuation submitted that the prisoner was not charged with forgery but with uttering.  The prisoner had made restitution to the bank to the extent of £200. Mr Cautley asked his lordship to consider that from the time the prisoner had left school he had been in continuous employment and borne a very good character.  At the time of the crime the accused had been in bed three weeks suffering from neuralgia and his explanation was that he really did not know what he was doing.  Prisoner served seven weeks in prison before he got bail. 

His lordship said that the prisoner was in a position of trust and he had taken advantage of the position. An ordinary forgery where there was no such position of trust night be trated with a lighter sentence but with the prisoners 12 years experience he (the judge) could not pass anything less on the prisoner than a sentence of penal servitude.  He would however follow Mr Cautley so far in that it should be one of only three years. 

There is also another article for a Ben Crompton (an ex-clerk) in 1914 for embezzlement in Hull
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