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Offline hatofthecat

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Close ? the blanks
« on: Tuesday 27 January 15 01:01 GMT (UK) »
Just a couple of words foxing me from this will of 1670.  I have as follows but is it "close" in those three places and is it a "steed bed" or "stood bed" ?

Item I give unto Thomasine my wife my now house in
Trevilley with my orchard and and arbor garden thereunto adjoyning and all those
two
[closes] in Trevilley aforesaid, the one called by the name of the Mowsay [close] and
the other
[close] adjoyning it towards John Tomkins house during her natural life & no longer
I give likewise to my said wife one brown cow with a white head & six ewes one
[steed]
bed furnished whereon I do usually lie


thanks, Pete
Norris / Andover, Poplar, Canning Town, Stratford
Hughes, Cooper, New  / Berkshire
Waugh, Lisle, Davison, Mole, Luke, Dodd / Northumberland
Walton / Cumberland, County Durham, Northumberland
Littlefair / County Durham, Northumberland
Morcumb, Pedler, Warne, Whitford, Arthur, Warmington, Sleap, Docton,Couche / Cornwall
Ross / Middlesex, Hertfordshire
Southgate / Essex
Tarrant/Hampshire

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Re: Close ? the blanks
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 27 January 15 02:05 GMT (UK) »
Looks as if Close might be the go - as in a Close - few houses round a yard/Close?

Don't know the other.  Couldn't be stead could it?  as in bed stead?  I've not heard the term reversed but  it might make sense. 

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Close ? the blanks
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 January 15 02:14 GMT (UK) »
Closes/close/Close is correct.

However the name is mowhay rather than mowsay.

The double letters in the bed certainly look like "e"s.

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Re: Close ? the blanks
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 January 15 03:26 GMT (UK) »
Yup, I was thinking close was what was written but seemed a little odd in its use at that time. Think I'll try to find any other use in that way from 1600s.

Later on they manage to get bed and stead the right way round... on the third attempt...

Mowhay, works too.

There is one Trevilly on 1699 map so easily found that at least.

Pete
Norris / Andover, Poplar, Canning Town, Stratford
Hughes, Cooper, New  / Berkshire
Waugh, Lisle, Davison, Mole, Luke, Dodd / Northumberland
Walton / Cumberland, County Durham, Northumberland
Littlefair / County Durham, Northumberland
Morcumb, Pedler, Warne, Whitford, Arthur, Warmington, Sleap, Docton,Couche / Cornwall
Ross / Middlesex, Hertfordshire
Southgate / Essex
Tarrant/Hampshire


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Re: Close ? the blanks
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 January 15 07:08 GMT (UK) »
Close - a residential street without through access.

I don't suppose the term cul-de-sac was in vogue at the time?! ;D


Also:
The precinct surrounding a cathedral.
A playing field at certain traditional English public schools.
Scottish An entry from the street to a common stairway or to a court at the back of a building.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Close ? the blanks
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 January 15 07:12 GMT (UK) »
I've read books where Close is used in that way way back then - also the will-maker owned lots of different land and houses - so Close fits very nicely.   ;)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Close ? the blanks
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 January 15 12:17 GMT (UK) »
"Close" it is then  :)   I was just checking for some other possibly agricultural yard reference but nothing extra to add.  The inventory describes it all as "chattell eastate in Trevilly" with value of £150. Looking at burial records though the neighbour I'll re-transcribe as John "Tonkine".

Thanks for all the assistance.

Pete
Norris / Andover, Poplar, Canning Town, Stratford
Hughes, Cooper, New  / Berkshire
Waugh, Lisle, Davison, Mole, Luke, Dodd / Northumberland
Walton / Cumberland, County Durham, Northumberland
Littlefair / County Durham, Northumberland
Morcumb, Pedler, Warne, Whitford, Arthur, Warmington, Sleap, Docton,Couche / Cornwall
Ross / Middlesex, Hertfordshire
Southgate / Essex
Tarrant/Hampshire