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Looking for two missing Derhams
« on: Wednesday 28 January 15 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Frances Elizabeth Derham was baptised on 3 May 1829 in Morden Dorset - she was illegitemate daughter of Rebecca Derham. On 11 May 1857 Frances (Fanny) baptised a daughter called Julia at Colehill Dorset. Julia's birth was registered Q2 1857 Wimborne district. Fanny and Julia are on the 1861 census as boarders in Wimborne with Elizabeth Brine age 92. Julia has acquired a middle name (Hannah) not on her baptism record.
After that the only record I can find for Julia is a prison record where she is sentenced to two months imprisonment and 5 years in a reformatory on 24 May 1870 for stealing boots. Discharge date 22 July 1870. The record has what looks like the name of the reformatory. I can't find any marriage, death or census record after 1861, although in 1871 she should be in the reformatory.
For her mother I can't find anything after the 1861 census. Nothing obvious on emigration records either.

Any ideas?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Here is snip from Julia's prison record - possibly the reformatory she was sent to
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 16:09 GMT (UK) »
In 1871 in Institution (For Young Women)Swan Place Clapton Road, Hackney, London, England listed as Julia Doreham born 1857 Wimborne, Dorset

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you that was quick, I'd tried searching on birthplace but I used Colehill, so nothing came up.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 16:24 GMT (UK) »
On FindMyPast you can search for name variations.  I didn't put in any birthplace.   

Know the area - my OH lived there for many years ;D 


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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 16:38 GMT (UK) »
I was trying on Ancestry and not finding her. Now tried FindMyPast and looks like I've also found her on later censuses in London.
Don't know why Ancestry search was failing.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 16:40 GMT (UK) »
Spoke too soon. The Julia of the same sort of age on later censuses is the wife of James Derham from Devizes. Not one of my Derhams.
So my Julia disappears after 1871
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Possibly - But not given up yet ;D

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:02 GMT (UK) »
I think Fanny married George Down Dec Qtr 1871  Wimborne    5a   623   

In 1881 she is listed as Fanny Down b 1829 Morden Dorset with George and family