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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:14 GMT (UK) »
Another one I missed, I just searched on Frances. Thanks again.
George is much younger than her and presumably widowed to have a 16 year old son.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:21 GMT (UK) »
I think this is mistranscribed Fanny  and son Herbert in 1871 Living at East Borough Lukes Lane, Wimborne Minster, Wimborne

Fanny Durham    41 Morden Dorset Charwoman
Herbert Durham  7  Wimborne Dorset

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Just found same thing - sure it's the right Fanny, her birth place of Morden is a small village.
Now to add Herbert to my tree and find out what became of him.

This part of the family have more illegitimate than legitimate births
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Sadly I think he died in 1885 and there may have been an earlier Herbert who was born and died in 1880 in Wimborne

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear, the Herberts could take some sorting out. To name two sons Herbert might be a clue to the father's name. No Herberts that I've found in Fanny's family previously.

Ancestry has transcription of the marriage record of Fanny and George Down. She names her father as Samuel Derham. She was illegitimate and her stepfather was Samuel Kent, so I expect that's where the name comes from. 
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Did you find the baptism of    Laura Hoare Derham   13 Mar 1863 at Wimborne Minster Mother Fanny Elizabeth Derham

She also died in the same year she was born but she has the same middle name as Herbert -  Hoare - Maybe their father's surname??


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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 17:58 GMT (UK) »
There is a Hubert Henry Hoare b 1840 Moreton Dorset who marries Edna White in 1870 in Wimborne and Herbert born 1865 is listed on FreeBMD as Henry Herbert Hoare  Derham ??

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 18:02 GMT (UK) »
I'd found birth and death registrations for Laura, but not sorted out her parentage yet.
So looks like Fanny had four illegitimate children: Julia, herbert, Laura and Henry Herbert - equals her uncle George's record.
And if Henry Herbert married a White, it could be another rellie. Uncle george's illegitimate children were with Sarah White. They married when quite old.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Looking for two missing Derhams
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 28 January 15 18:13 GMT (UK) »
There is also a possible Georgina born and died in 1867 in Wimborne.  Maybe named after Uncle George  ;D

I wonder if she was also a possible child of Hubert Henry Hoare???