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Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« on: Thursday 29 January 15 14:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi all  i am doing a family tree for a friend and got stuck on his great grandfather Joseph son of John
Marriage in St Brigids Blanchardstown 1891
Joseph Kane a porter,Charlemont St son of John Kane a candlemaker ?(illegible) to
Teresa Connor  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPY1-R8N   Michael a cooper by trade.
Have tied up Teresa's family through various sponsors etc at their childrens baptisms.

Joseph's family are another kettle of fish so to speak the direction i am heading in unfortunately lead's to parents that did'nt bother to register their children or only had the one son as i found this baptism
of John J kane in 1869    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e2c4c40019450
which lead me to a Limerick man as his father
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/bc6a300011526

Joseph in 1901 states he is 32 and 42 in 1911 giving him a date of 1869
312 Harolds Cross Cottages
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003710637/

Is there any way of proving his mothers name to link him positively to the Limerick John Kane.
I have emailed St Brigid's ,Blanchardstown but got no responce.

Any help or guidance much appreciated
Dathai.

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Re: Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 January 15 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dathai

That baptism has a Francis Kane on it !

This marriage for a Francis Kane has the same parents as the John Kane marriage so I'd be pretty confident that Francis, Joseph & John were brothers !

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/94e51c0012476

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Re: Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 January 15 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Dathai

Just rereading the time line !

I though Joseph was MARRIED in 1873 NOT that his wife was born in 1873.

So,

It would appear that Joseph Kane was the son of John Kane and Mary Anne O'Connell.

John Kane lived in Charlemont Street.

John Kane had a brother called Francis Kane whom also lived in Charlemont Street.

Thn

John Kane and Francis Kane's parent's were:

John Kane & Bridget Cruise Kane whom were from Limerick !

Does that make sense ?

Tara

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Re: Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 January 15 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tara  welcome back
Thank's for that but as you can probably see from Irish Genealogy there is nothing appearing for them either other than their marriage.
I think you got a little confused here i am trying to prove that Joseph is the son of John Kane and Maria O'Connell and Francis would be John's brother and Joseph's uncle.
As you can see from Joseph's children's baptism's there are no Kane sponsors to help get any lead's.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?name2fm=teresa&name2l=connor&namefm=joseph+&namel=kane&location=&yyfrom=&yyto=&submit=Search&sort=&pageSize=100&diocese=&parish=&century=&decade=&ddBfrom=&ddMfrom=&ddDfrom=&mmBfrom=&mmMfrom=&mmDfrom=&yyBfrom=&yyMfrom=&yyDfrom=&ddBto=&ddMto=&ddDto=&mmBto=&mmMto=&mmDto=&yyBto=&yyMto=&yyDto=&locationB=&locationM=&locationD=&member0=&member1=&member2=&member3=&member4=&member5=&member6=&member7=&member8=&member9=&namef0=&namef1=&namef2=&namef3=&namef4=&namef5=&namef6=&namef7=&namef8=&namef9=&namel0=&namel1=&namel2=&namel3=&namel4=&namel5=&namel6=&namel7=&namel8=&namel9=&keyword=&event=
Dathai

Edit
sorry must have been typing while you were posting but you have it in a nutshell.


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Re: Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 January 15 11:33 GMT (UK) »
1870 In Glasnevin shows a 29 year old John Kane being buried from Charlemont Street.

Could Joseph's Mum have gotten remarried ?

This could explain the lack of Kane references in later years !

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Re: Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 January 15 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Just in case the Mary Anne O'Connell works out this looks like a possibility for her parent's marriage !

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/6ddd1c0049080

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Re: Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 January 15 11:47 GMT (UK) »
That's interesting about John Kane dying 1870 if right man might explain why i cant find any other children.

thank's Tara

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Re: Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 January 15 11:48 GMT (UK) »
1886

Glasnevin has a 37 year old Francis Kane of Charlemont Street buried there !

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Re: Joseph Kane,Charlemont St
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 January 15 12:03 GMT (UK) »
I noticed that Joseph gave his second son the middle name of Francis !

I wonder MIGHT Francis have helped in rearing Joseph ~ maybe even took him in ?

Given that it looks possible that Francis was in Charlemont Street up 'til 1886 and Joseph was still there after that it would certainly be possible that this uncle and nephew could have been very close !

Tara