Richard Hayter born 1780 & Sarah Ansell married 1817

[josey]

Good morning....not a good night though - had a leak from the loft through the ceiling of a bedroom. Plumber [I like to stick to one I trust] can't come till tonight or even tomorrow. Mains water off - still I've got 3 water butts full of rain water & snow to melt if desperate  .

I found the John [William] Hayter mentioned in the will
1851 HO107/1486/631/8 upholsterer aged 20 born Sunninghill [transcribed as Saunderton on ancestry]. Do you think James mentioned his siblings in birth order? If so, how enlightened  .

A burial of a John William Hayter aged 27 of Pied Bull Yard, Bloomsbury on 1 Aug 1858  in Hackney  ?a possibility. No corresponding freebmd death. Several other John Hayter deaths in London though up to 1899.

This is my theory for children:
James Samuel 1819 [died 1850]
Catherine ca 1820 [she died 1865]
Hannah Ellen ca 1825 [died 1894]
Henrietta Sarah ca 1826 [poss died 1894]
Richard Ansell
John William ca 1829
ages from censuses

[Maddie]

Good morning sorry to hear you had problems overnight, did you have more snow? we only had a very light smattering here in Lincs.

It does look as though James Samuel named his siblings in order of age, that is so thoughtful of him. Am I right in thinking Henrietta was the only one to have a child that lived into adult hood.

There are a few mentions of Richard Ansell on Papers Past, nothing very informative about his life as to marriage or children but there is one advert where he has a pregnant Sow for sale imported from Berkshire in 1859. No luck finding him on any shipping lists though.

Maddie

[josey]

In W Yorkshire we've still got snow lying from last Wednesday! Also had to take cat to vet this am with huge abscess in his neck - £53 later/lighter! It's only 6 wks since he had his last £53 fight. I think there is a newcomer in his territory.

I haven't listed them yet but Catherine had Turberville children.  Am on the case now. Interestingly, in 1861 they lived in Museum St Bloomsbury - where the John William Hayter died 1858 lived...

I have put a post on the NZ board to see if anything can be discovered about Richard Ansell. Thanks for looking in the papers. I wonder if he & Henrietta went to NZ on the proceeds of James Samuel''s will? Neither of them seem to be in England for the 1851 census.

I bet the pregnant sow did not enjoy that voyage 

[josey]

OK
Edward Henry Turberville born Ireland Bush Mill, Co Antrim ca 1855
Frank [Franklin on freebmd] 1856 Q1 1b 350
Kate 1857 Q4 1b 357
William 1860 Q1 1b 397
all registered St Giles

William snr late of 'The Plough' public house died in Leamington on 17 Sep 1867 [will on ancestry] effects under £1000, executors Benjamin Bates Pitts [another publican] & William Thomas Tabernacle auctioneer.

[Maddie]

Oh, hope your pussy cat makes a full recovery, bless. I wonder if that sow was pregnant before she left Berks..

I had forgotten about the Turberville children, they sound like something out of Sherlock Holmes. Funny thing, I have just found the christenings for Franklin William & Kate in St George Bloomsbury 1868 & their abode is still Museum Street. So if both parents had died, how come.

Just spotted a tree on Ancestry for them also.

It seems all the men connected to the Hayter family liked the pub trade. I have only just caught up with your thread on Jack Straws Castle, ho ho, now that was a "den of iniquity" up there on "ampsted eaf" in the late 60s. I speak from experience, only once though.

Good thinking putting a post on the NZ board.

Maddie

[Maddie]

Oh wow Josey, those NZ chatters have come up trumps again, they are amazing.

Maddie

[Lucy2]

There are a few mentions of Richard Ansell on Papers Past, nothing very informative about his life as to marriage or children but there is one advert where he has a pregnant Sow for sale imported from Berkshire in 1859. No luck finding him on any shipping lists though.

Maddie

Hi

.... Josey if you look at your thread on the New Zealand board you'll see I've posted info re: the arrival (1851) in Canterbury, NZ, of Richard HAYTER and his sister, Henrietta. 

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

Link to New Zealand board thread (re:  Richard Ansell HAYTER)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=712037.9

   ~  Lu

[josey]

I was just about to post a link to the NZ thread but you beat me to it; thank you.