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Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« on: Sunday 01 February 15 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chatters,

I'm looking for the birth of the right Alexander Cameron to see where he was born and who his parents were.  ??? Can you help please?

Everthing I can find in print in old Ontario family history books says he was born in Inverness. An old family note says that he was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis".

At the time of his death in 1901 he was reported to be 86 years old which makes him born 1814 or 1815.  (This is relatively consistent with Canadian census which bounce him around 1814 - 1818). He married in Quebec 11 Sep 1845. No parents are noted in the record I've found.  :'(

I've attached the SP options. I've purchased the 19 Apr 1814 Glenelg birth as an option. Which of the others are close enough geographically to be considered "in the shaddow of Ben Nevis"? ???

Background in case it helps you think this through and offer alternative strategies to determining the right Alexander, his parents & his birth place:

There is an unverified tree on *A* that says his mother's name was Janet.

The Glenelg record I purchased (if correct) indicates the father is Alexander & no mother is included in the record.

The naming pattern for his chldren:

First 3 girls:
Jessie (should be named after mother's mother, however if she is actually named for father's mother then the name could coincide with the unverified tree that says mother is Janet.  :-\)
Susan (should be named for father's mother but appears to be named for mother's mother)
Sarah (should be named for mother and is named for mother's middle name)

First 3 boys:
Malcolm (should be named after father's father, but appears to be named after mother's father)
Alexander
Ewen

These children were all born relatively close together with no liklihood of having an extra "unknown" child between the marriage date and first child or extras between the first six children.

Thoughts? What are my next steps to narrow this down?  ::) ???  ;D
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont

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Re: Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 February 15 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Kilmonivaig, in Cameron country, is in the shadow of Ben Nevis, the others would need a very long shadow indeed!  ;D
No 8, mention of Samuel Cameron, the Cameron's of Glen Nevis, literally under the Ben, traditionally used  the name Samuel (Somhairle = Sorley). Sorley's Cave there where the Glen Nevis women hid after Culloden, was soon discovered by the Redcoats who stole everything the women had.

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Re: Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 February 15 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much for the guidance. I'll follow that trail and see where it leads.

I'd feel more confident if Samuel had been used as the name for at least one child, but there were 14 kids & no-one named Sam.

It's a conundrum for me & I really appreciate that you've provided your expertise. :)
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont

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Re: Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 February 15 13:23 GMT (UK) »
I'd have a look on Freecen 1841 (see what susan + cameron shows in Inverness shire) rather interesting entry with Camerons living at Ratlichveag...includes a Susan and a Ewen....SO many Camerons maybe a flick through the adjacent households might throw something up...

Skoosh - I love your history snippets  :)
Jen

edit: should have added Jessie/Janet used interchangeably in Scotland
North East Scotland above the Tay...
JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir


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Re: Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 February 15 13:26 GMT (UK) »
Red,  it was the chief's family who used the name, they were known in Gaelic as the "Sliochd Somhairle Ruaidh", presumably being descended from a Red Samuel.

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Re: Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 February 15 00:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Skoosh & jennywren. Do you know of any family history sites dedicated to the Camerons of Kilmonivaig? I'm hoping there is so I can see if there was an Alexander of about the right age who went off to make his way.

I've visited the library and looked in all 4 volumes of A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada before Confederation. It generally shows the area from which the person emigrated. Unfortunately for me, my Alexander is not included.
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont

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Re: Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 February 15 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi RedMystic,

Sorry, can't help with family history site but if you've yet to read through the Statistical account of the parish for 1835-1845 it's worth a read. The section on the keeping of records is particular apopo as is the description of the ecclesiastical state of the parish.
http://stat-acc-scot.edina.ac.uk/sas/sas.asp?action=public

Jen
North East Scotland above the Tay...
JOLLY, Johnston,Thom, Rae, Davidson, Fielding, Sherret
FEARN, McKenzie, Stirling [brick wall], Robb, Wilson, Stott
RUSSELL, Fullerton, Christie, Cochrane, Davidson, Coutts, Easton, Scott
FRASER, Henderson, Noble, Mundie, Goodall, Thain, Neish, Moir

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Re: Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 February 15 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Red,  you should also be looking for stuff on the parish of Kilmallie, which together with Kilmonivaig makes up Lochaber, a good book if you can get hold of it is, "Bygone Lochaber" by Somerled MacMillan 1971, I think it used to be available from the West Highland Museum in Fort William.

Bests,

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Re: Which Alexander Cameron was born in the "shaddow of Ben Nevis"
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 February 15 14:20 GMT (UK) »
Excellent. Thank you jennywren & Skoosh. I will follow-up on both.  :)

Yesterday afternoon I figured out that Alexander Cameron's brother-in-law (a McCallum from Argyle) fought in the Patriot Rebellion in Quebec (Lower Canada at the time) in 1837-38. The frustrating thing is that I didn't even know that Canada had a Patriot Rebellion and I thought I was pretty good at Canadian history.

This makes me particularly appreciative of your recommendations for background reading regarding Lochaber and the parish. Knowing the history & context certainly helps in the search.
MACDONALD of Benbecula, Scotland, Earlswood/Wapella Sask
BAIN of Aberdeenshire, Trafford district, Red Jacket and Moosomin, Sask
CHEYNE of Aberdeenshire & Trafford district, Sask
FISHER of Yorkshire, Ontario & Saskatchewan
INKSTER of Shetland, Edinburgh, Sask and BC
GAUNT of Yorkshire, Kent, BC & Australia
KINCH of Ireland, PEI, Ab, Sask
CORCORAN of Ireland, PEI & Sask
GOTZ / GOETZ of Soufflenheim, Alsace & Ont
MITTELHAUSSER of Soufflenheim, Alsace
MULLER or MILLER of Drusenheim, Alsace & Ont