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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 02:31 GMT (UK) »
This is probably of little help!
Morinish is a rural area near to Rockhampton in Queensland.  There is a mine there, according to TROVE and a Mr Charles Johnson was the manager in 1890.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/52337486

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 02:34 GMT (UK) »
The Rockhampton electoral rolls show a Charles Thomas JOHNSON living at Londesborough Dairy, Gracemere Road, farmer from 1903.

Includes JOHNSON family at Morinish
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/169784208?q&versionId=185044751
 "... a history of the Morinish district covering its first fifty years of European settlement and activity" --Page xv.
Includes bibliographical references (pages 321-364) and index.


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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 03:35 GMT (UK) »
I was given a copy of the birth of Elizabeth Jane by the family. I also found the infant death and the death of Edwin jr. in Middlesex. The family did the search so I will start with the information I am aware of...
Elizabeth Jane Davenport had siblings Mary, Annie, Alice as written on a photo. The photo/postcard taken in England of a house named Cross Trees Braemar apparently where the Davenport family lived.

Elizabeth 'Jane' lived with or was married to Walter Frederick Campbell Ramsay. They were told he was married to another woman at the time; I found another marriage if it is same man. The family believe he was from Scotland (not verified).

Elizabeth Jane and Walter had daughter (Margaretta) Margarita Elizabeth Campbell Ramsay b. 8 Nov 1897 in South Chelsea, London (birth cert), and daughter Jean Dove Campbell Ramsay. They lived on Highgate Street. Walter was a Heraldic artist.

Margaretta and Jean were sent to live with their mother's sister Mary Davenport Jones, wife of Herbet Jones.
Marg was sent to Canada with the Barnardo home children, Jean Ramsay stayed in England, married William Bonny.

British Home Children records confirm Margaretta's immigration. The sisters met again when Jean came to Canada, they were in their seventies. I understand information about their mother was shared at that time and Margaret's daughter did the search.

I don't know how Margaret's family acquired the photos of Elizabeth Jane Davenport, likely through their aunt Mary. They were told their mother left for Australia while their father returned to his family (in Scotland?)

This is confusing, Thanks everyone for your input.  :)

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 04:12 GMT (UK) »

Margaretta and Jean were sent to live with their mother's sister Mary Davenport Jones, wife of Herbet Jones.
Marg was sent to Canada with the Barnardo home children, Jean Ramsay stayed in England, married William Bonny.

Kate

In 1911 Jeanie (neice) is with Herbert and Mary JONES at Godshill, Fordingbridge in Hampshire.  Henry and Mary have been married for 7 years and have no children born alive, but two sons living with them  ;D  I would think it is a second marriage for either one of them or both.

Mary is born in Breamore, Hampshire c1856

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 04:14 GMT (UK) »
Births Dec 1900 
RAMSAY Jeanie Dove N     Flegg    4b/40

On the 1901 census Margaret RAMSEY 3, born London and Jeannie RAMSEY 6 months, Born Caistor-on-Sea, Norfolk are boarders.

This is the only marriage I can find on the same page [and it may not be this couple marrying]  for Elizabeth Jane's sister Mary to a Herbert JONES.

Marriages Dec 1902   
DAVENPORT Mary Elizabeth  Prestwich 8d/665
JONES Herbert Barratt  Prestwich 8d/665


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The photo/postcard taken in England of a house named Cross Trees Braemar apparently where the Davenport family lived.

I thought Braemar was in Scotland.  Perhaps there is also one in England.
http://braemarscotland.co.uk/

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Edit...comments about the marriage noted Deb... :)
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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 04:17 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps Braemar is actually Breamore??

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 04:35 GMT (UK) »
Wow, this is complicated, but I have to go out!!

It was Mary's first marriage and she was Elizabeth's half sister.

Marriages Jun Quarter 1903

JONES, Herbert        
NICKLEN, Mary Ann D
Registered at Lymington
Vol.  2b  Page 1409   

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 04:40 GMT (UK) »
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Perhaps Braemar is actually Breamore??

Yes possibly.

I have found an Elizabeth J DAVENPORT on a census in 1871 living with William and Fanny DAVENPORT,and Mary NICKLEN.

This appears to be Mary's birth

Births Jun 1856
NICKLEN Mary Ann Dove Fordingbridge  2b/507

On the 1881 Census Mary is noted as a step-dau. Will type up the census in a moment.  My presence is being requested outisde by OH :)

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Re: Marriage or Death for Elizabeth Jane Davenport
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 04:55 GMT (UK) »
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Elizabeth Jane Davenport had siblings Mary, Annie, Alice as written on a photo. The photo/postcard taken in England of a house named Cross Trees Braemar apparently where the Davenport family lived.


1881 Census  RG11/1201/24/16
Living at Upper Street, Breamore, Hampshire
DAVENPORT William Head  47 years  Ag lab   All the family born Breamore, Hampshire 
DAVENPORT Fanny  Wife  51 years  Laundress
DAVENPORT Elizabeth J  Dau  12 years  Scholar
DAVENPORT Annie E  Dau  9 years
DAVENPORT Eliza A  Dau 7 years
NICKLEN Mary A D  Step-dau  25 years   Infirmits?
NICKLEN William  Wife's brother  Widow 36 years  Assistant gardener

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