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Offline WGoodall

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Military Records - Southampton
« on: Thursday 05 February 15 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I am looking for assistance/mentoring in locating a military record.  I have been unable to locate a record for my 2nd Great Grandfather.  (I have found another military record for a different person for the same period via ancestry.com but not for William.)  Here are his details:

William Goodall

Born 19 May 1822, Riccall, Yorkshire
Also lived in the Leeds area of Yorkshire
1942  -  Caught house breaking and stealing 18/- in coppers and 240 days for drunkenness and stopping out of barracks.
27 June 1842  -  Was tried for this offense in Southampton Portsmouth
1 August 1842 - Embarked for Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania), Australia

On William's convict records it states:

37th Reg and 2nd ?
Distinctive Marks:  Tattoos - Half moon, 7 stars.  W R women on right arm.  Anchor and several blue marks on left arm.  INRI crucifixion.  Woman man on horseback.  Man with spear on breast.  Scar on left shoulder.
His Trade:  Labourer

I believe he was in the navy/military because:

1.   He was a long way from his native place.
2.   One of his offenses was "stopping out of barracks".
3.   He had an anchor tattoo.
4.   On his convict records it appears he was in the military, possibility the navy due to his offense being in the Southampton/Portsmouth area.

Convict records are fantastic for information.  I not sure if I can attach William's record but it can easily be assessed via:
 
http://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/
Type in:  Goodall, William
Record Type (on the left-hand side):  Select "Convict" then select "Include"
My William is the second one:  1942 (not 1829).

I look forward to receiving feedback on how to locate his records.

Best regards.

Wendy
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Re: Military Records - Southampton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 February 15 03:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wendy,

Why are you so sure he sure he was born in Yorkshire ? I can't read the place of birth but it doesn't look like Yorkshire to me? Sisters Ann, Marg and Harriett?

Jo  :)
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Re: Military Records - Southampton
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 February 15 03:56 GMT (UK) »
Jo,

Thank you for responding.

In the "Conduct Record" it says:  Native Place - Leeds.  My Dad's 2nd cousin has the birth record which states he was born in Riccall, Yorkshire, not too far from Leeds.

On the "Indent" the Native Place is a little hard to read.  The sisters names are:  Ann, Mary, Harriett, Betty (Elizabeth?) or Bessy? 

Also on the "Indent" and "Conduct Record" it says:  37 regt 2 lrs?

Best regards.

Wendy

Goodall  -  Lewis  -  Fitzgerald  -  Curran
Munday  -  Waterworth  -  Hayes  -  Lee
MacKinnon  -  McKinnon  -  Nicholson  -  Cameron
Wilcox  -  Bonser  -  Needham  -  Taylor

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Re: Military Records - Southampton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 February 15 04:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi must go, but this looks to be the baptism of William:-

William Goodall 19th May 1822 Riccall Father Robt occ Labourer ?? Mother Charlotte

Harriett Goodall born 18th November 1816 baptism 16th December 1816 Riccall Father Robert occ Labourer Mother Charlotte

And the likely marriage of the parents:-

Robert Goodall to Charlotte Sharpe 23rd August 1814 St Lawrence, Snaith, Yorkshire
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Re: Military Records - Southampton
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 February 15 05:52 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Keyboard86 - that's him.  Now to find the military records.
Goodall  -  Lewis  -  Fitzgerald  -  Curran
Munday  -  Waterworth  -  Hayes  -  Lee
MacKinnon  -  McKinnon  -  Nicholson  -  Cameron
Wilcox  -  Bonser  -  Needham  -  Taylor

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Re: Military Records - Southampton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 February 15 06:55 GMT (UK) »
A brief mention in the Hampshire Advertiser for 2 July 1842:

"Ten years' transportation -  Wm Goodall, for stealing money, a bar of soap, &c, the property of Wm Cathery"
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Re: Military Records - Southampton
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 February 15 07:14 GMT (UK) »
I read it that he had served 2 years in 37th Regiment and had received not 240 days but twice 40 days for drunkenness etc.

If he was discharged after only 2 years it is unlikely that his army papers will have survived.
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Re: Military Records - Southampton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 February 15 16:32 GMT (UK) »

Hi Shaun,

Thank you so much for responding.

I agree that it reads twice 40 days - love having a second pair of eyes checking my work.  Ahhhh, not 2 lrs but 2 years - that certainly makes sense.

Would you tell me where you found the brief mention in the Hampshire Advertiser?

Best regards.

Wendy
Goodall  -  Lewis  -  Fitzgerald  -  Curran
Munday  -  Waterworth  -  Hayes  -  Lee
MacKinnon  -  McKinnon  -  Nicholson  -  Cameron
Wilcox  -  Bonser  -  Needham  -  Taylor

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Re: Military Records - Southampton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 February 15 16:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Keyboard86,

Would you please tell me where you got the baptism of William and his sister Harriett as well as the marriage information of Robert and Charlotte?

Best regards.

Wendy
Goodall  -  Lewis  -  Fitzgerald  -  Curran
Munday  -  Waterworth  -  Hayes  -  Lee
MacKinnon  -  McKinnon  -  Nicholson  -  Cameron
Wilcox  -  Bonser  -  Needham  -  Taylor