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« on: Thursday 05 February 15 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Hope someone can help but it is the Jones name so who knows.
I am trying to find the surname of my 3 x gt grandmother. She was born c1786 Llanfwrog  she was married to John Jones b c1778 Llanelidan.
I think i found them on the 1851 census with there youngest daughter Martha and my 2xgt grandfather Peter Jones who they brought up.
I have other children for them wether they are correct is to be determined they are Jane 1819 Margaret 1822 Enoch 1827  Abel 1829 Joseph 1832 and then Martha which i have already mentioned.

Any help would be really appreciated  thanks :) :)
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Re: more Joneses
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 February 15 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi

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I am trying to find the surname of my 3 x gt grandmother. She was born c1786 Llanfwrog  she was married to John Jones b c1778 Llanelidan.

What was her first name?

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Re: more Joneses
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 February 15 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi is this the 1851 you found?

John Jones 73 occ Pauper ( Ag Lab) b Llanelidan
Elizabeth 65 b Llanfwrog
Martha 14 b Llanelidan
Peter 5 Grandson b Llanelidan
Residing at Llechevedd Bryn, Ruthin
Census Ref HO107/2504/347/3

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 February 15 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi gadgetHer name was Elizabeth.
Hi Keyboard 86 yes that is the census I have got, Peter Jones was my 2x gt grandfather
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 February 15 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi gadgetHer name was Elizabeth.
Hi Keyboard 86 yes that is the census I have got, Peter Jones was my 2x gt grandfather

Hi still looking for you, found this 1841 which could be John/Elizabeth in 1841?

John Jones 65
Elizabeth 50
Ellis 15
Abel 13
Residing at Nant Plymog, Llanferras, Ruthin
Census Ref HO107/1405/ 5/4 / 1
Only problem where is Martha?

Did Peter Jones marry a Margaret Humphreys in 1873, if so have you his parish record or marriage registration?

Just wondering about this possible, and I mean possible marriage for John/Elizabeth?

John Jones to Elizabeth Lewis 11th November 1817 Llanelidan

Possibly suggesting that Elizabeth was a Parry, as a Joseph Jones aged 10 is with a Thomas & Mary Parry in 1841 HO107/1402/ 12/36 / 3 and Enoch Jones aged 15 is with a Richard Parry aged 50 Census Ref HO107/1404/ 14/3 / 10
Possibly uncles?
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 February 15 08:05 GMT (UK) »
hi keyboard 86 thank you very much for taking the time to look .
 Yes Peter Jones did marry Margaret Humphreys and I have their marriage cert.
The marrige looks quite promising and i will look at the censuses you have given me

thank you  :) :)
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 February 15 08:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, does the marriage certificate name the father of Peter?

Also if the 2 children visiting possibly relatives called Parry are yours, then an Elizabeth Parry marriage would also be an alternative?!

Difficult one with a Jones!
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 February 15 08:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi again
It is difficult  ??? with these joneses  :)
Peter Jones was the illegitimate child of Margaret Jones daughter of John and Elizabeth and he was brought up by them. Margaret married a Evan Davies in 1851. On his marriage cert it gives Peters  father as Rhys Evans so aint got a clue about that lol.

Will delve into it deeper thank you for your help  :) :)
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 February 15 08:31 GMT (UK) »


Just wondering about this possible, and I mean possible marriage for John/Elizabeth?

John Jones to Elizabeth Lewis 11th November 1817 Llanelidan



I saw this one last night and checked up for a baptism in Llanfwrog around 1786 but none showing.  Of course that doesn't rule her out. The only other marriages to an Elizabeth  were in 1810 and 1811 in Llanfwrog.  They might have married this early as she would have been circa 33 in 1819.

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