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Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« on: Thursday 12 February 15 12:26 GMT (UK) »
Mary Eltham (widow) of Lashbrook in the parish of Shiplake made a will on 3 July 1756.
She left one shilling each to the following: her brothers (Edward and Augustin Bartholemew), her kinsmen (William House and Thomas Broad). She left five pounds each to her kinsman Richard Broad and kinswoman Mary Broad. Richard and Mary live in South Moreton, Berks. She gives onje guinea to Thomas Eltham of Lashbrook. No indication is given of her relationship to Thomas Eltham. If he were here son, I would expect it to be mentioned and him to get more than the Broads.

I'm trying to work out who Mary's late husband was. I would guess Mary would be born in early 1700s. The best I have come up with is a Mary baptised to Richard and Elizabeth Bartholemew in Benson. She seems to have a brother Edward but no sign of Augustine.
can't find any Bartholemew / Eltham marriages or any Bartholemew connection with House or Broad families in the area and time frame.

Any ideas please?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 February 15 09:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lizzie

In case you haven't had the opportunity, the OFHS Marr Index 1538 -1837?

Sadly I don't see any probables, in fact there are only 9 male ELTHAM marriages during that whole period. Only one of which marries a Mary but that was at Eynsham in 1816.

Because Shiplake is so close to the boarder have you had a look at Bucks and Berks?

Nigel

Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 February 15 09:33 GMT (UK) »
and sadly in the  Oxford Archdeacons’ Marriage Bond Extracts for that period nothing that fits
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,

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Re: Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 February 15 09:52 GMT (UK) »
But the ELTHAMS must have been around the Shiplake area because there is a marriage of an Elizabeth ELTHAM on 10 Oct 1764 at Shiplake to Thomas ELMS and this may be a piece of your puzzle?

Nigel
Robinson - Oxfordshire
Stratford - Gloucestershire,
Waters - Northamptonshire,
Moss - Oxfordshire,
Bint - Berkshire,
Collins / Collings - Buckinghamshire,
Salmon - Warwickshire and Northamptonshire
Stranks - Northamptonshire,
Bull - Oxfordshire /Buckinghamshire,


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Re: Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 February 15 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, every snippet might be of use someday. I've found the will of Richard Bartholemew of Benson, but his daughter Mary is referred to as the wife of James Kemp, so that rules her out.

Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 March 21 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Just checked my tree again, don't know how I missed it before. I have an Eltham / Bartholemew marriage. But much earlier than I expected.
John Eltham married Mary Bartholemew on 6 Oct 1712 in West Hendred. I have John's baptism as 5 Nov 1671 in Steventon, Berks s/o Thomas and Mary and possible burial for him in Hagbourne on 14 Jan 1753. This date would fit with Mary being a widow by 1756. But that is some distance from Shiplake. And John would be 41 when he married if he is my John. Perhaps Mary B was his second wife and the kinsman Thomas Eltham of Lashbrook was her step son.
I guess I'm looking now at a Mary b about 1680 - 1690.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 March 21 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Now found burial of Augustine Bartholemew at West Hendred on 19 Jul 1760. Probate index says he was a yeoman. Could be the brother, fits with him being still alive when Mary died and living in village where Mary married.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 July 22 12:07 BST (UK) »
Just come back to this thread. I've now found a Thomas Eltham buried in Shiplake in 1763, no date on transcript, maybe original record too damaged to read. Could be Mary (Bartholemew) Eltham's kinsman / possible stepson. The Elizabeth Eltham who married in 1764 mentioned earlier in the thread might be Thomas's daughter or widow. Assuming he married.

Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Eltham / Bartholemew of Shiplake
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 July 22 12:23 BST (UK) »
Maybe another part of the puzzle
Richard Broad married  Awdry Bartlemor (sic) in South Moreton in 1699. I have only seen transcript, possibly she was Awdry Bartholemew.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott