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Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« on: Friday 13 February 15 08:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I wonder if there is anyone who can help me elaborate on the family-dates-places etc. of Jonah Nicholson and his family?
or indeed the McWhirters?

I descend from the McWhirter family and can only get back to John McWhirter who married Mary Nicholson daughter of Jonah (born 1726) and his wife Mary Carruthers.

The only leads from there are that he married Mary on the 3rd or 31st July 1756 according to Parish records
he was a Tobacconist and Admitted Burgess of Dumfries 9th January 1797

Died 01 July 1780 age 54  Dumfries?

Any help much appreciated

Crystal  :D

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Grimes - Middlesex and Surrey
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Re: Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« Reply #1 on: Friday 13 February 15 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Chrystal, Nicholson tends to be a Skye name & Nicolson, Shetland but spelling means little really.

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Re: Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« Reply #2 on: Friday 13 February 15 12:05 GMT (UK) »
Lots of McWhirters in Ayrshire on Familysearch.Org
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 February 15 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to both of you.

I have found a record on Ancestry stating that Jonah was born possibly 25 Dec at Tinwald, Dumfries-shire, Scotland not 1726 as a relation had previously found out

Parish records show his marriage to Mary Carruthers which I believe to be correct as
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1756
Marriage Place: Dumfries,Dumfries,Scotland
Spouse:  Mary Carruthers   
FHL Film Number: 1067960

This also means his father could be
John Nicholson
Birth 1697 in  Tinwald, Dumfries-shire, Scotland 
But I have no evidence
Crystal  :D
 
Oakes and Rance - Cheshire
Wright, Teesdale, MacWhirter -Sussex
Wright, Wooldridge and Little - Surrey and London
Grimes - Middlesex and Surrey
Cardy - Surrey
Broyd, Hanch and Lazell - Essex
Bradshawe - Hampshire, London and East Indies
Hearsey - India (British Army), Cumberland and London

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 February 15 10:23 GMT (UK) »
I have found a record on Ancestry
Never trust anything you find on Ancestry. Use it as a pointer to find the original document from which the mention on Ancestry is derived.

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Parish records show his marriage to Mary Carruthers
Again, have you followed that reference to check the original? If not, do so now. You will find the original at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk or on microfilm at various libraries and family history centres.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 February 15 16:09 GMT (UK) »
This is all the available OPR records from 1700-1800 for Dumfries including possible variants.
There are none prior to 1700.
There is also a NAS reference to James, son of John, Merchant in Dumfries but this is 1784.

Don

16/08/1789   MACARTER   JACOB   WILLIAM MACARTER/BARBARA ALLAN FR210 (FR210)   M   GRAITNEY OR GRETNA   /DUMFRIES   827/00 0010 0230
18/12/1778   MCWHIRTER   ELISABETH   JAMES MCWHIRTER/   F   DUMFRIES   /DUMFRIES   821/00 0030 0054
04/04/1755   MCWHIRTER   ISABEL   JAMES MCWHIRTER/   F   DUMFRIES   /DUMFRIES   821/00 0020 0236
19/07/1779   MCWHIRTER   IVIE   PETER MCWHIRTER/MARGRET CARRUTHERS FR41 (FR41)   M   MOUSWALD   /DUMFRIES   844/00 0010 0033
02/07/1752   MCWHIRTER   JAMES   JAMES MCWHIRTER/   M   DUMFRIES   /DUMFRIES   821/00 0020 0205
14/01/1774   MCWHIRTER   JAMES   PETER MCWHIRTER/MARGARET CARRUTHERS FR33 (FR33)   M   MOUSWALD   /DUMFRIES   844/00 0010 0026
01/08/1771   MCWHIRTER   JOHN   PETER MCWHIRTER/MARGRET CARRUTHERS FR29 (FR29)   M   MOUSWALD   /DUMFRIES   844/00 0010 0022
24/03/1758   MCWHIRTER   MARGARET   JAMES MCWHIRTER/   M   DUMFRIES   /DUMFRIES   821/00 0020 0261
03/02/1782   MCWHIRTER   PATRICK DOUGLAS   JAMES MCWHIRTER/   M   DUMFRIES   /DUMFRIES   821/00 0030 0082
12/02/1800   MCWHIRTER   RICHARD   JOHN MCWHIRTERNO NAME2   M   DUMFRIES   /DUMFRIES   821/00 0030 0206
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Re: Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 February 15 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your reply Forfarian,

The parish record about Mary has been confirmed by a 3rd cousin of mine on a visit to Scotland.

I am not trusting the information on ancestry trees but adding it here in case it helps find any information.
Living in the South of England it is quite difficult to follow any of these records up. I have not had much success finding the information  on Scotland's people so far.
Crystal :D
Oakes and Rance - Cheshire
Wright, Teesdale, MacWhirter -Sussex
Wright, Wooldridge and Little - Surrey and London
Grimes - Middlesex and Surrey
Cardy - Surrey
Broyd, Hanch and Lazell - Essex
Bradshawe - Hampshire, London and East Indies
Hearsey - India (British Army), Cumberland and London

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 February 15 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Thank you DonM
That list it will certainly give me something to work on!

I cannot seem to firm up the records for James McWhirter born 23rd November 1801 in Dumfries to parents John McWhiter and Mary nee Nicholson married 1796 Mary's father Jonah Nicholson.

Crystal  :D
Oakes and Rance - Cheshire
Wright, Teesdale, MacWhirter -Sussex
Wright, Wooldridge and Little - Surrey and London
Grimes - Middlesex and Surrey
Cardy - Surrey
Broyd, Hanch and Lazell - Essex
Bradshawe - Hampshire, London and East Indies
Hearsey - India (British Army), Cumberland and London

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Jonah Nicholson or McWhirter family
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 September 19 15:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks to both of you.

I have found a record on Ancestry stating that Jonah was born possibly 25 Dec at Tinwald, Dumfries-shire, Scotland not 1726 as a relation had previously found out

Parish records show his marriage to Mary Carruthers which I believe to be correct as
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1756
Marriage Place: Dumfries,Dumfries,Scotland
Spouse:  Mary Carruthers   
FHL Film Number: 1067960

This also means his father could be
John Nicholson
Birth 1697 in  Tinwald, Dumfries-shire, Scotland 
But I have no evidence
Crystal  :D
 

Hi Crystal,

I realize this post is super old, hoping you're still on here. Where did you find the record for John Nicholson b 1697? I believe I am related to Jonah Nicholson via his brother Benjamin so if Jonah's father is John...then that's also relevant to me! Let me know here or you can email *

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