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GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« on: Wednesday 18 February 15 01:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I'm writing a bio of every WW1 service person from my town, Stockton, NSW, Australia.

On our memorial is one: Fred A V G GREENLAND who lists his place of birth as Streatham, Surrey (Parish of Brixton).

I am trying to find his BDM details and I've had no luck. Partly because I can't work out where to look for records!! In 1896 is Streatham parish part of Surrey or London?

I've checked GENUKI and FamilySearch and can't work it out. I can't find the parish in the Surrey or London records on Ancestry or FindMyPast.

I have been able to find a George Alfred Victor GREENLAND from Grafham, Surrey, but this isn't my guy (I've found his military records and the physical description is different and he also survived the war).

But, I am beginning to suspect that maybe the guy I am researching stole the aboves identity (look at initials) when he came to Australia, with just enough differences to make it impossible to track? I haven't been able to find any passenger records for Fred GREENLAND either, which makes me even more suspicious.

So, can someone help me with where I should be looking for Streatham records, so I can check all the possible births to see if I can track him down?

I will cross post to the London board as well.

Cheers,
Laren
Stockton, NSW, Au - WW1 Service Personnel - http://ww1stockton.blogspot.com.au/

WATSON - Uddingston, Scotland -> Bendigo, Australia
CANET - France -> London -> Victoria, Au
SAPSFORD - Great Hallingbury and Edmonton, England
FREEMAN - Derry and Cork -> Glamorgan, Wales -> NSW, Au
BLANDTHORN - Chester -> Sandhurst/Bendigo, Vic, Au
HARPER & BRAY - Cornwall -> NZ -> Sandhurst/Bendigo, Vic, Au
RANN - Edmonton -> Vic, Au
WHITLEY - Waltham Abbey -> Edmonton -> Vic, Au
ABERNEATHY - Ireland/Scotland

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Re: GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 February 15 03:50 GMT (UK) »
Free BDM has the following:

Births Sep Q 1896 
Greenland  Frederick Aaron V G     
Wandsworth 
Vol:1d
Page: 796

# Wandsworth would be the registration district.
Townson - Cartmel                      O'Malley - Askeaton, Ireland
Sadler - Dymock & Salford           Tomlinson - St Peters, Leeds
Wilkinson - Salford                      Chant - Sherbourne, Dorset
Garner - Pendleton

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Re: GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 February 15 04:14 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: saddles on Wednesday 18 February 15 03:50 GMT (UK)
Free BDM has the following:

Births Sep Q 1896 
Greenland  Frederick Aaron V G     
Wandsworth 
Vol:1d
Page: 796

# Wandsworth would be the registration district.

Wow, that certainly looks like him, even the right quarter!!

Thanks so much, I will follow up.

Cheers,
Laren
Stockton, NSW, Au - WW1 Service Personnel - http://ww1stockton.blogspot.com.au/

WATSON - Uddingston, Scotland -> Bendigo, Australia
CANET - France -> London -> Victoria, Au
SAPSFORD - Great Hallingbury and Edmonton, England
FREEMAN - Derry and Cork -> Glamorgan, Wales -> NSW, Au
BLANDTHORN - Chester -> Sandhurst/Bendigo, Vic, Au
HARPER & BRAY - Cornwall -> NZ -> Sandhurst/Bendigo, Vic, Au
RANN - Edmonton -> Vic, Au
WHITLEY - Waltham Abbey -> Edmonton -> Vic, Au
ABERNEATHY - Ireland/Scotland

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Re: GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 February 15 04:39 GMT (UK) »
Additional info you may already have.


Fred A V Greenland   
Service Number: 1692
Rank: Private
Roll title: 18 Infantry Battalion - 1 to 13 Reinforcements (May 1915 - June 1916)
Conflict: First World War, 1914-1918
Date of embarkation: 19 June 1915
Place of embarkation: Sydney
Ship embarked on: HMAT Kanowna A61


Townson - Cartmel                      O'Malley - Askeaton, Ireland
Sadler - Dymock & Salford           Tomlinson - St Peters, Leeds
Wilkinson - Salford                      Chant - Sherbourne, Dorset
Garner - Pendleton

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Re: GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 February 15 05:34 GMT (UK) »
This looks like his baptism
Frederick Aaron Victor Goldie Greenland
Baptism   8 Nov 1896  Lambeth
Father    Frederick James Greenland - Railway Plate Layer
Mother   Caroline Beatrice Jessie Goldie Greenland

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Re: GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 February 15 06:02 GMT (UK) »
Parents marriage:

Marriages Sep Q 1895   

GREENLAND  Frederick James
TALL  Caroline Beatrice J G
Wandsworth 
Vol: 1d
Page: 1349   
   
Townson - Cartmel                      O'Malley - Askeaton, Ireland
Sadler - Dymock & Salford           Tomlinson - St Peters, Leeds
Wilkinson - Salford                      Chant - Sherbourne, Dorset
Garner - Pendleton

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Re: GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 February 15 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Siblings (same parents, father a platelayer):

Charles George William Invincible Greenland baptised 1 December 1899 at All Saints, South Lambeth. Residence 41 Jaffrys Road

Iris Eugenie Alexandra Jane Greenland baptised 4 December 1903 at St John the Divine, Balham. Residence 86 Larch Road
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Re: GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 February 15 09:54 GMT (UK) »
1901 census at 14 Vauxhall Mansions in Lambeth:

Frederick J Greenland 36    Railway Platelayer born London
Caroline B J G   Greenland 26   Devon
Frederick A V G Greenland   4  Streatham   
Esther B V J Greenland 3    Clapham   

Son Charles appears to have died in 1900.
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Re: GREENLAND, Fred A V G - Streatham, Surrey? WW1
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 February 15 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Fred and Esther attended Springfield School in Lambeth. Admitted 26 January 1903. Previously at Raywood Street school. Residence 92 Crimsworth Road.

Fred's date of birth is recorded in the register as 16 August 1896.

He was removed from Springfield School in June 1903. Esther had already been removed in April.
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